Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:37:08 -0400, "daestrom"
<daestrom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>"ItsASecretDummy" <secretasianman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
in 
>message news:ff16541gvkb76pfih1pa9sbvq1djf07emh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:08:36 GMT, "clydebeer" <u44204@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>This is an industrial meter, measuring demand (KVA) and KWH.
>>>Medium sized industrial plant.
>>>
>>>Thks/Clyde
>>>
>>>Palindrome wrote:
>>>>> How does the utility determine the Kilowatts for the kwh energy
charge, 
>>>>> if
>>>>> the standard meter measures KVA. Would 100 KVA for one hour record
100 
>>>>> kWh?
>>>>> Does a meter have a built in pf correction factor?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks/Clyde
>>>>
>>>>A *domestic* meter measures actual power consumption and displays it
in
>>>>kWhr.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Sue
>>
>>
>>  TOP POSTING IDIOT!
>>
>>  Learn about Usenet BEFORE you invade it!
>>
>>  OK, chump...  here goes...
>>
>>  ALL business and industrial service MUST pay for ALL non-PF corrected
>> loads.
>>
>>  The meter is not corrected, you equipment must be.  That means that
any
>> and all inductive loads that you use WILL cost you a bit more.
>>
>>  How can you possibly know the difference between WATTS and VARS, and
>> not know what that difference really amounts to or whom it would be
>> applicable to?
>
>You are so far off it is funny.

  You're a goddamned idiot.
>
>The only folks that get billed for having a bad pf are large industries
with 
>very low pf.

  No, idiot.  ALL industries, not just "large industries", whatever that
was supposed to mean, you stupid ****.

>The standard kwh meter used in all residential and commercial customers
is 
>able to measure the real power directly.


  No ****, dip tracy.


>  Customer loads do *not* have to be 
>power-factor corrected.


  They do if they are an industrial service feed.

>  If that were true, every freezer case in a grocery 
>store would have to have pf correction on the compressor and every 
>office-building would have pf correction on the A/C (not to mention the 
>flourescent lighting).

  That's not how it works, idiot.  You cannot correct the inductive
loads, so you get charged for them at a different rate.  PERIOD.

 You're a ****ing idiot to think that they sit on their hands and eat the
losses.