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Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh

by ItsASecretDummy <secretasianman@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 15, 2008 at 11:53 AM

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:18:07 -0400, "daestrom"
<daestrom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>ItsASecretDummy wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:19:01 -0400, "daestrom"
>> <daestrom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> If you knew anything about revenue metering you'd know that kw-hour
>>> meters automatically respond to only the true power used.
>>
>>
>>  If you knew anything about it, you would know that power companies
>> REQUIRE their industrial customers to correct power factors on loads
>> that present high pf differentials.
>>
>>
>>>  A 1.0 kW load at unity
>>> power factor makes the dial spin just as fast as a 1.25 kVA load at
>>> 0.8 pf or a 2.0 kVA load at 0.5 pf.
>>
>>  And if you knew a goddamned thing about it, you would know that that
>> is exactly why they take steps to get paid for what gets used, not
>> what is read on the meter.
>
>And that is why large industrial customer revenue metering includes RkVA 
>meters as well.  So the utility can be paid for the equipment they
maintain 
>that is needed to sup****t the reactive load the customer is drawingl. 
But 
>if the customer was *required* to correct their own pf, there wouldn't be

>any RkVA load now, would there 'Dummy'??  Must be the utility installs
those 
>RkVA meters just for fun.
>

  Idiot.  Not all loads can be corrected.  That's where you forgot
reality.
 




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Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"clydebeer" <  2008-06-13 16:58:06 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
Palindrome <me9@[EMAIL  2008-06-13 17:02:34 
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"clydebeer" <  2008-06-13 17:08:36 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-13 16:45:30 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-14 11:37:08 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
James Sweet <jamesswee  2008-06-14 18:17:17 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-14 15:02:58 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
James Sweet <jamesswee  2008-06-14 20:39:27 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-14 17:13:17 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-14 16:00:40 
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ROYKEY@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-14 20:23:55 
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ROYKEY@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-14 21:02:11 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-14 18:02:32 
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ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-14 11:39:49 
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"daestrom" <  2008-06-14 15:15:48 
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"daestrom" <  2008-06-14 11:41:22 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-14 11:42:06 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-14 16:19:01 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-14 15:54:16 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-14 15:57:12 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-15 12:18:07 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-15 11:53:20 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-15 03:07:30 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-14 22:45:29 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-06-15 14:59:26 
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"daestrom" <  2008-06-15 12:08:06 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-15 11:50:43 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-15 15:34:17 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-16 00:51:29 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-15 11:36:06 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-15 12:02:19 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-15 11:43:57 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-15 15:49:04 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-15 17:27:08 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ItsASecretDummy <secre  2008-06-15 11:54:53 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-15 15:37:45 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
ROYKEY@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-15 07:05:01 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-06-15 14:58:42 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
HiggsField <higgdfield  2008-06-13 16:41:45 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"clydebeer" <  2008-06-13 17:06:36 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
HiggsField <higgdfield  2008-06-13 16:42:22 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"Don Kelly" <  2008-06-13 22:31:36 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
"daestrom" <  2008-06-13 19:02:52 
Re: Utility Billing KWH/ Measures in KVA but bills in kWh
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-13 22:14:27 

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