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woot: ROM tradgedy revisited

by "robb" <some@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 10, 2008 at 07:26 AM

woot and and hardy THANKS ! to all the help,

more small problems with questions at the bottom if you want to
skip the story ....

short version:
----------------
- robb repairs non-problem on working ('85) micro-board with 32v
rampage on the 5v rail (32v rails meets 5v rail) :( bad joke,
nothing repaired, everything broken :(
- ** lots of help from "sci.electronics.*"
- many IC casualties including the MCU (SAB 8031) and ROM (NEC
D23256AC)  **BIG** ROM problem
- ** lots of help from "sci.elec.*
- much searching and patience then access to good ROM  *but* many
problems  reading
- ** lots of help from "sci,elec.* and "rec.games.pinball" and
"alt.microcontrollers.8bit"
- woot --- ROM copied and image working


Details:
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- ROM mistakenly treated  as 27c256 variant. so, bad reads and no
pin play helps
- ROM turns out to be maskable, address latching. so need a slow
or latching alogortithm
- helpful advice says try 87c257
- The programmer sup****ts it and it worked  ---  good ROM read
- Programming , no joy with 27c256 variant ROMs as a new ROM host
   even though in theory it seems they should work
- new 87c257 arrive and work
   **BUT**

Problem:
-----------
On the 87c257 (Pin 1) is (~AS, addr strobe) is the latching
signal.  However,  the (D23256) used falling edge of (OE) same as
(G)  as the address latch ??

so 87c257 only works if i lift (Pin 1) out of socket and jumper
to a suitable/safe address latching signal

Question (s):
- both (OE) and (CE) work as surogate latch but which is better
choice ?
- what is the best/proper  way to solve this problem or do this
jumpering ?? just solder a jumper wire across the pins ? should i
use resistor, diode, other  ?
- how to deal with dangling (Pin 1) fold it up, clip it, etc
- Is it possible to get the 27c256 ROM without adding latching
mechanism around them
  any suggestions on what pieces i would need to build a
latching mechanism

thanks again for any helpful advice,
robb
 




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woot: ROM tradgedy revisited
"robb" <some  2008-01-10 07:26:01 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited
Ian Malcolm <valid.add  2008-01-10 23:58:31 
Re: ROM tradgedy revisited (was: microcontroller ROM copy troub
"robb" <some  2008-01-11 11:01:13 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited
rebel <me@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-01-12 08:46:17 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited
Lostgallifreyan <no-on  2008-01-12 00:25:37 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited
Eric Smith <eric@[EMAI  2008-01-11 17:40:22 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited
"robb" <some  2008-01-11 21:08:14 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited
Ian Malcolm <valid.add  2008-01-12 03:40:55 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited (REPOST)
Ian Malcolm <valid.add  2008-01-12 03:49:35 
Re: woot: ROM tradgedy revisited (REPOST)
Ian Malcolm <valid.add  2008-01-12 03:52:46 

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