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Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem

by clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct 7, 2008 at 01:24 PM

On Oct 7, 2:52=A0pm, "jungledmnc" <jungled...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hi,
> this question might be very trivial, but I haven't found good
explanation
> anywhere else.
>
> I have an audio signal - some sine. Use a wavelabl to look at the
> waveform, and its maximum is at about 0.6. When I change the display
into
> dB it shows about -5dB at that level.
> But this does not make sense - the formula is 10*log10(amplitude). So it
> should be -2.5dB. I have found, that this is because we use squares for
> comparison :
> 10 * log10(amp1^2 / amp2^2) =3D 20 * log10(amp1 / amp2)
>
> They say it is often used in electronics to compare voltages, but why is
> it used in digital audio? Yeah I know that the digital values are
> equivalent to resulting electrical power, but we are not comparing
anythi=
ng
> to anything. So why should we square?
>
> And if so, then when should we NOT square?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> dmnc


Hello dmnc,


dB =3D 10*log(power/power_reference)

now since power is pro****tional to amplitude squared then

dB =3D 20*log(amplitude/amplitude_reference)

With dB we are really always talking about power relative to a
reference power.

Even in acoustics, we have 100 dB is 0.946 watts per square meter.

I hope this helps.

Clay
 




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Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
"jungledmnc" &l  2008-10-07 13:52:54 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-07 13:24:03 
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Richard Owlett <rowlet  2008-10-07 19:27:32 
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glen herrmannsfeldt <g  2008-10-07 17:50:44 
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"Fred Marshall"  2008-10-07 17:08:59 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-07 21:14:10 
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bulegoge@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-10-07 20:07:05 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
bulegoge@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-10-07 20:12:44 
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clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-08 09:13:57 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
"Fred Marshall"  2008-10-08 09:33:42 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-08 12:39:20 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-08 10:25:00 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-10-08 13:44:30 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-08 10:56:57 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-10-08 14:33:18 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
zebra <ezra@[EMAIL PRO  2008-10-08 11:28:44 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-08 13:11:52 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-08 16:22:43 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-08 16:41:54 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-08 16:42:50 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-08 17:13:33 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-08 17:18:41 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-08 14:35:44 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
cs_posting@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-10-08 18:51:37 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-10-08 22:10:49 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
"Philip Martel"  2008-10-09 19:54:40 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-09 00:47:39 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-10-09 11:14:09 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Rune Allnor <allnor@[E  2008-10-09 01:26:34 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
cs_posting@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-10-09 07:23:28 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
clay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-09 08:26:50 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-10-09 13:49:05 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-11 11:57:54 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-11 12:08:37 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-11 12:12:49 
Re: Amplitude Decibel conversion problem
Jerry Avins <jya@[EMAI  2008-10-11 14:12:48 

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