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Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are ****pping

by Joerg <notthisjoergsch@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 13, 2008 at 05:37 PM

steveu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Oct 14, 1:31 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>>> There was nothing innovative about the design of the Transputer. The
>>> device as it was supposed to be (i.e. separate comms and execution
>>> planes), rather than the crippled one they ****pped, was similar to
>>> designs several people in the UK (and presumably elsewhere) were
>>> toying with at that time. The others did not proceed because the
>>> economics looked so wrong.
>> Toying means nothing in our industry, it's all about rolling out actual
>> product. That is what Inmos did. But:
>>
>> The economics didn't have to look wrong. They were wrong because IMHO a
>> cardinal mistake had been made: Entering the market with very high
price
>> tags. That was bound to fail and cause me to turn away. Same thing
>> happened with S/C filter chips.
>>
>> Next, they should have lined up an early licensing deal with a major
>> semiconductor manufacturer, one that engineers trust. This is extremely
>> im****tant. Nobody in their right mind would design in a single-source
>> part from a tiny manufacturer without a serious business track record.
>> My guess is that a few more business-thinkers could have potentially
>> saved the bacon at Inmos.
> 
> Going to market with an impractical product is much worse than toying
> and figuring out its impractical before you spend the big bucks. I
> remember when the Inmos people kept trying to sell their filter chip
> into a board I was doing. The board's BOM target was about 130 pounds
> (more or less met in the end), while their chip in 100k volume was
> something like 800 pounds. I guess the salesman had few other leads to
> follow if he kept wasting his time on us.
> 

That's exactly the cardinal mistake I mentioned above. Coming into the 
market with a totally unrealistic price is bound to fail. And it did.

Usually that happens after spending big bucks in NRE, it's all way 
behind schedule and the investors demand a rather quick and unrealistic 
ROI. Seen it many times, failed every single time. You should have seen 
some of the faces here when high-faluting chips were presented and then 
I told them that my discrete solution costs a buck fifty.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-10 06:01:06 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
steveu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-10 09:42:41 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Benjamin Couillard <be  2008-10-10 10:11:17 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-10 10:43:15 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-10-11 12:25:54 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-10 10:44:14 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Benjamin Couillard <be  2008-10-11 07:57:25 
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Benjamin Couillard <be  2008-10-11 07:59:24 
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Richard Dobson <richar  2008-10-11 16:32:37 
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HardySpicer <gyansorov  2008-10-11 12:33:56 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-11 12:34:30 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-10-11 12:42:21 
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HardySpicer <gyansorov  2008-10-11 12:53:27 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-11 12:59:35 
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Brian Drummond <brian_  2008-10-12 00:57:37 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-11 15:25:10 
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Randy Yates <yates@[EM  2008-10-11 18:37:06 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-11 15:49:47 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
steveu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-12 19:52:25 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-10-13 10:31:06 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-12 23:55:43 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
"steveu" <st  2008-10-13 03:55:40 
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Bob <bob9@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-10-13 03:14:29 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-13 03:33:02 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Eric Smith <eric@[EMAI  2008-10-13 12:42:25 
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steveu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-13 16:55:21 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-10-13 17:37:18 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Albert van der Horst <  2008-10-24 22:47:52 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-14 06:57:27 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Paul Carpenter <paul@[  2008-10-14 15:27:25 
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Paul Carpenter <paul@[  2008-10-14 15:32:45 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Anton Erasmus <nobody@  2008-10-15 21:28:48 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
"Joel Koltner"   2008-10-14 11:46:44 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Eric Smith <eric@[EMAI  2008-10-14 14:28:50 
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Rich Grise <rich@[EMAI  2008-10-14 21:51:32 
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Eric Smith <eric@[EMAI  2008-10-14 15:44:39 
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Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-15 04:03:26 
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info2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-10-15 07:33:29 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-16 03:36:25 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-16 03:40:32 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Benjamin Couillard <be  2008-10-16 08:04:40 
Re: XMOS XC-1 kits are shipping
Leon <leon355@[EMAIL P  2008-10-16 12:27:45 

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