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Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained

by Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 6, 2007 at 03:51 AM

Ed wrote:
> Sad we won't see anything worth buying till March, and even then I would
> probably want to wait another 3 months to make sure the boards and bios
> have ALL the bugs worked out like I always do before upgrading.
> 
> Intel's 45nm chips will be out for 3 months by March and may be the
> better bang for the buck though from what I've read their boards won't
> have much of a future upgrade path compared to AMD's AM2/AM2+ socket
> boards.
> 
> Comments?

It may sound strange, but I don't think it really matters how late 
Phenom comes out. AMD has rediscovered its roots as the cheaper 
processor maker. Over the last year, it has been regaining market share 
over Intel, despite overwhelming technical superiority from Intel. It's 
now clawed back almost all of the market share that it lost to Intel 
with its initial misstep from last year. It had 25% market share last 
year, it went down to 18% after the disastrous misstep, and now it's 
already back upto 23% again. The disastrous misstep was to become a 
supplier for Dell and ignore the Channel, but it was not the lack of 
performance against Core 2 as most people think; Dell overestimated how 
much it could sell, and end up dumping its unsold inventory back to AMD. 
I don't think AMD will be so accomodating to Dell's forecasts anymore.

During all of this time it's had some financial issues due to the ATI 
acquisition. But even ATI is on the comeback, and it's now contributing 
positive cashflow to AMD.

Also I saw a roadmap today from AMD which talks about a "Large L3 cache" 
coming in 2008. That may be Z-RAM. Separately, there was even a rumour 
that any Z-RAM cache could be upto 100MB!!!

Check page 30 of this PDF, where the roadmap stuff starts:
http://www.cisl.ucar.edu/dir/CAS2K7/Presentations/torricelli.pdf

Next Generation CPUs Could Have 100MB of Cache - Z-Ram technology might 
enlarge the cache memory by a factor of 10 - Softpedia
"The company also said that the actual Z-RAM can store "significantly 
more charge in the memory bitcell," which translates into lower read and 
write cycles. According to Innovative Silicon, Z-RAM can surpass the 1 
GHz barrier. The firm said that the memory can store 5 Mb per mm2 when 
using 65 nm process and more than 10 Mb per mm2 using 45 nm 
manufacturing process. That could easily translate into L2 cache sizes 
of about 50 to 100 MB if applied to the die-sizes of actual CPUs.
"
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Next-Generation-CPUs-Could-Have-100MB-of-Cache-41830.shtml

	Yousuf Khan
 




 11 Posts in Topic:
AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-05 14:17:24 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Ed <nospam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-06 00:35:47 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-06 03:51:42 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Ed <nospam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-06 20:12:10 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-07 18:11:56 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-06 13:37:02 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt  2007-12-06 22:01:53 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-07 16:36:49 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt  2007-12-07 22:10:19 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-07 18:05:22 
Re: AMD Phenom L3 cache bug explained
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-07 17:05:04 

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