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Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug

by Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 15, 2007 at 10:05 AM

On Dec 15, 9:12 am, a?n?g?...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (The little
lost angel) wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:35:26 -0800 (PST), Robert Myers
>
> <rbmyers...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >A number of assertions have been made here about the AMD TLB L3 Bug:
>
> >1. Only affects virtualization.
>
> >2. Is fixed in 64-bit Linux without a significant performance hit.
>
> >1. TRUTH: AMD, which knew about the bug before the chip was released,
> >falsely made this claim.  The bug apparently affects all workloads,
> >potentially resulting in a system freeze.
>
> >2. TRUTH: A fix is available under NDA for RHEL 4 and not otherwise
> >apparently.
>
> A number of assertions have been made here by Mr Myers about the AMD
> TLB L3 Bug:
>
> 1. That a fix is available under NDA for RHEL 4 and not otherwise
> apparently.
>
> Truth: Mr Myers, which knew about the openly released fix before the
> post was released, falsely made this claim. The fix apparently is
> available for all, not requiring a NDA that could potentially result
> in an information freeze.
>
> Truth : AMD released the fix publicly without a NDA requirement on 5
> Dec, do***ented on the same day by the same website used by Mr Myers
> to cite the two truths above, 8 days before Mr Myer's posting on 13
> Dec... ;)
>
>
http://www.techre****t.com/discussions.x/13742https://www.x86-64.org/pipermail/discuss/2007-December/010260.html
>
As I'm sure you know, I wasn't aware of the follow-up article.
Somewhere, there might be a customer who matters who would apply such
an "invasive" patch without sup****t.  Who or where that customer might
be is beyond my imagining, except that someone im****tant must have a
bunch of these AMD chips installed somewhere and has no choice but to
take the chance.  So,

1. We rushed a chip into production and missed an infrequently-
occurring but potentially disastrous bug.

2. We are now ru****ng out a patch that pur****ts to fix the bug without
a serious penalty.  We told you to trust us about the chip, and it
turns out you shouldn't have.  Now we're telling you *not* to trust us
about the patch.  Why, exactly, would anyone install the unsup****ted
patch?  Presumably there is a handful of im****tant customers whose
hands are being held.  For everyone else, it's just PR.

Robert.
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-13 16:35:26 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-14 19:02:11 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
David Kanter <dkanter@  2007-12-14 18:02:58 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-14 18:22:54 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-18 19:29:13 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-19 19:31:22 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Redelmeier <red  2007-12-20 14:06:21 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2007-12-20 09:55:49 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-20 18:46:08 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-15 14:12:30 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-15 10:05:48 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-18 19:22:16 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-18 19:19:53 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-19 17:53:35 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-20 00:49:30 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-20 12:38:53 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-18 19:23:23 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-19 17:53:47 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-19 10:43:45 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-20 14:22:15 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-19 12:29:48 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2007-12-20 08:11:08 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-20 10:16:31 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-21 16:13:47 

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