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Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug

by chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 20, 2007 at 09:55 AM

Robert Redelmeier wrote:

>In addition to this very valid commercial argument, there is also a
>fundamental difference between this AMD "bug" and the Intel FDIV bug:
>the AMD bug might slow machines a bit under unusual cir***stances.
>The Intel FDIV bug gave erronious results in a few cases.
>People worry _far_ more about data corruption than machine speed.  
>The FDIV bug might well have sunk AMD.  This will not.

Huh?  Were there not work-arounds for the FDIV bug that eliminated the
chance for "data corruption"?  Really, from my understanding, the FDIV
bug affected only a TINY percentage of users.  The AMD's bug affects
EVERYONE.

>Actually, I find the continued harping on the AMD bug interesting
>in and of itself.  No-one complains of things they don't consider
>a threat.  AMD must be considered a serious threat. 

What silly, saccharin cheerleading.  Go AMD!

>(snip)

More of the same.

>I believe actual performance is increasingly hard to measure.

I believe different.  Why would it be "increasing hard" to measure?

>MHz hasn't cut it for a long time.  

Yeah, we know that.

>Intel has focussed on
>bandwidth and cache.  AMD has worked on latency.  As a result,
>each processor excels at some tasks and is only mediocre
>at others.  There is no one "best" CPU.

Sounds like what someone who is getting their ass kicked in the
benchmarks would say.
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-13 16:35:26 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-14 19:02:11 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
David Kanter <dkanter@  2007-12-14 18:02:58 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-14 18:22:54 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-18 19:29:13 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-19 19:31:22 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Redelmeier <red  2007-12-20 14:06:21 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2007-12-20 09:55:49 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-20 18:46:08 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-15 14:12:30 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-15 10:05:48 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-18 19:22:16 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-18 19:19:53 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-19 17:53:35 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-20 00:49:30 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-20 12:38:53 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-18 19:23:23 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-19 17:53:47 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-19 10:43:45 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-20 14:22:15 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-19 12:29:48 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2007-12-20 08:11:08 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2007-12-20 10:16:31 
Re: Clarifications about AMD TLB L3 bug
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-21 16:13:47 

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