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Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets

by Robert Redelmeier <redelm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 27, 2007 at 05:32 AM

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips kony <spam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in part:
>>have to be multiplied by a factor reflecting the PSU inefficiency.
> 
> True, but if we're going to be THAT technically correct, anyone
> using a faster system will get their work done sooner and turn
> off the system sooner, leave the room sooner turning off the
> lights sooner, etc.

AFAIR, PSU efficiency is ~50%.  70% for some of the best units.
No way a faster computer gets total work done that much faster.

> It doesn't have to.  All it has to do is be such a small
> difference in power consumption that it is a bad place to focus.
> However modern generation cards do make a difference in video
> decoding, offloading as much of the power used by the CPU as
> they use themselves, if a lower end card is chosen.

This might apply if vid.decoding were the main task of the comp.
Like watching DVDs.  But if it is, a dedicated DVD player is
certainly lower power.

> I'm not trying to pimp video cards, just saying that taking the
> great modern advances in PCs and castrating the whole thing one
> piece at a time is kinda wasteful, we might as well have just
> kept an older system because if we had, there wouldn't be the
> higher numbers for power consumption being listed.

No, older systems have larger feature sizes and needed higher
voltages at lower clocks.  Per unit computation, modern CPUs are
_far_ more efficient.  You should have seen a 5V Pentium 60!

Undervolting and underclocking is alive and well in the mobile
[laptop] market.  Get one of those CPUs.  Skipping the GPU
is a similar trade-off.  Save 15W of power even at idle,
but lose some capability, especially 3D games.  Notice the
low-end video cards are disappearing.

> So it goes for other parts as well, that each one could
> be discounted if we only limited our uses to those which
> didn't need more performance, but that's a bit counter to
> the idea of a PC, it's strength being it's versatility.

Sure.  Just add the vid.card if/when you need it.

-- Robert
 




 24 Posts in Topic:
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
"philo" <phi  2007-12-25 09:59:00 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 04:42:40 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-26 03:58:28 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-25 15:24:51 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Robert Redelmeier <red  2007-12-26 23:51:19 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-26 23:59:33 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Robert Redelmeier <red  2007-12-27 05:32:38 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-27 02:06:52 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-27 14:16:03 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-27 03:51:41 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2007-12-28 12:56:58 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-28 13:34:35 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-01-02 15:17:50 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-01-03 18:22:27 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2008-01-03 17:25:33 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-01-04 16:33:19 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-01-04 18:56:03 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-01-04 18:45:47 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Robert Redelmeier <red  2007-12-27 19:28:32 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-28 03:28:24 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
Robert Redelmeier <red  2007-12-28 15:22:46 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-28 22:15:16 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2007-12-27 10:04:09 
Re: A case for Dual System Cabinets
kony <spam@[EMAIL PROT  2007-12-27 14:23:32 

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