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Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1

by Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 30, 2007 at 01:44 PM

VanguardLH wrote:
> Have you visited the manufacturer's web site to get the specs on those 
> USB hubs?  Having the same hardware (i.e., chipset) says nothing about 
> how the manufacturer utilized that hardware.  Lots of analog modems use 
> the same Conexant chip but the *cards* don't have the same feature set. 

> Same subsystem components do not enforce the same system features.  
> Could be one of the hubs really only is 1.1 compliant and that using it 
> as a 2.0 device is not recommended.  Of course, the device could be just

> a crappy low-grade cheap unit that doesn't properly respond to re****t 
> itself correctly, or you need a better USB cable.

Well, as I said previously, these are "generic" hubs, very generic. I 
doubt any of us have heard of the manufacturers' names: there isn't much 
point in checking their websites, they probably sell tons of little 
products. One is from Vantec and the other is Acrox. The Acrox is the 
older more reliable one. Both of them are advertised as USB 2.0 hubs, 
and both of them are identified as "USB2.0 Hub" internally, polled from 
the USB configuration itself.

> Are both of these a self-powered hub (i.e., they have a power adapter) 
> or a low-power hub that relies on the current supplied from the USB 
> controller at the motherboard?  If they are bus-powered hubs, they 
> CANNOT be on the same USB controller.  Each controller provides 2 ****ts 
> (channels) but these 2 ****ts still share the same controller and so both

> are limited by a total amperage that can be supplied by the same 
> controller.  

Both can be self-powered or bus-powered, they have the power inputs. 
Only one of them came with an included power cord though. And 
surprisingly it's the less reliable one that has the power cord. The 
more reliable one doesn't have one. I have tried that one with and 
without the power cord, but it made no difference.

I have resorted to putting my fast peripherals on the older hub, such an 
external hard drive, a digital camera, and a Skype phone. They all have 
their own power cords so they don't need to be powered by the hub 
anyways. The hard disk and camera show up under the mass storage device 
class.

The slower hub is being used for slow peripherals like mice and 
keyboards now.

> USB devices are supposed to re****t their power consumption.  Maybe you 
> hubs don't.  Or maybe they re****t too high a consumption to guarantee 
> USB 2.0 mode to work so the controller degrades to USB 1.1 mode.

Both are re****ting 100mA.

	Yousuf Khan
 




 28 Posts in Topic:
Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-29 16:39:50 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Meat Plow <meat@[EMAIL  2007-12-29 22:02:41 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-30 12:55:28 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-30 07:42:58 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Meat Plow <meat@[EMAIL  2007-12-30 12:20:20 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-30 13:07:58 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-12-30 15:01:01 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-31 02:34:02 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-30 03:02:37 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-31 18:57:09 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-12-31 15:03:04 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
a?n?g?e?l@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-12-31 21:45:54 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-01-01 00:20:06 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"VanguardLH" &l  2007-12-30 05:20:20 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-30 13:44:24 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"VanguardLH" &l  2007-12-30 20:52:21 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2007-12-31 04:06:47 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"VanguardLH" &l  2007-12-31 18:33:19 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-12-31 23:35:08 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"VanguardLH" &l  2008-01-01 03:03:27 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-01-01 13:46:18 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2008-01-01 01:03:47 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"VanguardLH" &l  2008-01-01 03:21:25 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"VanguardLH" &l  2008-01-01 21:15:44 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"M.I.5¾" <no  2008-05-01 08:13:38 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
Little Gorm <little-go  2007-12-30 23:06:01 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
david <none@[EMAIL PRO  2008-01-01 03:16:47 
Re: Generic USB 2.0 hub showing up as USB 1.1
"M.I.5¾" <no  2008-05-01 08:16:14 

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