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Re: Upcoming & future Xbox 360 motherboard / chipset revisions are: Jasper, Opus and Valhalla - The Valhalla to have 65 or 45 nm combined CPU-GPU in 2009

by krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 20, 2008 at 07:54 PM

In article <fphkir02r6b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, jclarke.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
says...
> krw wrote:
> > In article <mu1mr35cj2a4u4ptoa4shfhm1uvsd3bjse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > chrisv@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> >> Robert Redelmeier wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just because HD-DVD is dead does not mean Blu-ray will thrive.
> >>> There is competition from upscaled DVDs:
> >>>
> >>>
http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/techview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10610923
> >>
> >> Seen 'em.  They suck worse that leaving the DVD alone and nost 
> >> trying
> >> to "upsample" them.
> >>
> >>> As always, the question will be "Is the difference worth it?"
> >>> Not something a techie can answer.  It depends on mass market
> >>> perceptions.  If Joe Sixpack can plug a [sinfully expensive] HDMI
> >>> cable into a decent DVD player and his HDTV and see a picture as
> >>> good as s/he remembers from the BigBox store Blu-ray, why would 
> >>> they
> >>> switch?  Only if the blu-ray players become really cheap, there
> >>> might a movie or two the SFX or other visuals will be worth the
> >>> premium.
> >>
> >> They will become cheap, HD displays are getting cheap (you can't
> >> hardly buy one that isn't HD any longer).
> >
> > Depends on what you mean by "HD". Full 1080i isn't common under 42"
> > (just went through that - ended up with a 42" plasma).  ...not that
> > there is much 1080i content.
> 
> For certain values of "common".  Friend of mine got a 37" 1080i set a 
> couple of years ago.  Not horribly expensive then and less now--seems 
> that the Chinese were the first to get a 1080 LCD line going in that 
> size.

Sorry, I meant 1080p (AIUI, it must be 1080p - 1920x1080 to properly 
be called HDTV now).  Most of the <=42" class weren't.

> >> People will want to watch
> >> HD, not "upsampled DVD", on their HD displays.  It's inevitable.
> >
> > The "good enough" comments were right on.  VHS was "good enough".
> > I'm not convinced people will pay big bux for BluRay.  I don't think
> > I will, at least a large premium.
> 
> No, they won't pay big bucks, but a couple of years down the road it's 
> going to be as cheap as regular DVD is now.

I see a catch-22 here though.  DVD is incredibly cheap.  BR doesn't 
give *that* much more.

-- 
Keith
 




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john.dsl@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-18 07:38:41 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-02-18 16:07:25 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-19 10:48:36 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-19 20:06:04 
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"J. Clarke" <  2008-02-20 11:18:16 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-20 19:54:33 
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GTD <Stooopid@[EMAIL P  2008-03-10 16:10:59 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-20 12:01:30 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-20 15:43:39 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-20 19:49:52 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-22 19:31:10 
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Jim Beard <jim.beard@[  2008-02-23 20:22:35 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-27 10:56:07 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-19 20:42:52 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-20 11:38:35 
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"JLC" <jc@[E  2008-02-20 22:49:46 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-21 08:06:44 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-22 09:43:42 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-22 11:06:18 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-22 22:38:24 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-27 10:59:50 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-27 22:13:56 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-03 06:07:01 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-20 11:53:59 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-20 19:57:03 
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