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Re: Upcoming & future Xbox 360 motherboard / chipset revisions are: Jasper, Opus and Valhalla - The Valhalla to have 65 or 45 nm combined CPU-GPU in 2009

by archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nate Edel) Feb 27, 2008 at 10:56 AM

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <qhdu85xiu.ln2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
> says...
> > Videophiles certainly will pay big bux for BluRay, and *some* more
will if
> > in fact HD-DVD is dead and the format war is over.  Many other people
will
> > probably end up only getting BluRay players when/if they're enough
cheaper
> > that it's a "why not get the better one?" decision: unlike Beta or
> > Laserdisk, BR players will still play regular DVDs.
>
> Sure, but the marginal cost of the BR player has to be close to zero 
> for that to happen.

Yes... well, not /necessarily/ zero, but in whatever people find impluse
purchase territory to be.  

Also, for many people the marginal cost should probably be relative to a
*nice brand* DVD player (ie, Sony/Panasonic) which is still around
$80-100,
rather than the $20-40 Cyberhome/Apex/Wal-mart-specials.

Had $99 HD-DVD players come in a year earlier, they could have made a much
bigger difference.

> > The other factor is the cost/availability of content: right now, BR
disks
> > are often more expensive than regular release DVDs, and pretty much
anything
> > available on BR is available on regular DVD at the same time.  
>
> That's the other issue.  If BR content is more expensive than 
> standard DVD, people aren't going to flock to it.  I see a huge 
> catch-22 hurdle for BR to get over.

Yes.  The only way to get over it basically is to eat the increased cost
until economies of scale kick in, which *to an extent* that's what Sony
has
been doing.  Whether that'll be enough or last long enough for the format
to
really hit the mass market is anyone's guess - if not, it will probably be
relegated to the high-end videophile market the way laserdisc was.

> > If they really wanted to push BR, they could release the BR disks a
few
> > weeks/months ahead of the regular DVD - remember how for a while, many
VHS
> > tapes came out first in much-more-expensive "rental" editions before
they
> > came out out as "retail" editions?
>
> They content producers wanted to make more money.  They have no 
> horse in the media race.

They're still manipulable somewhat, or they'd all just have been BR/HD-DVD
dual-format.

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john.dsl@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-18 07:38:41 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-02-18 16:07:25 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-19 10:48:36 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-19 20:06:04 
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"J. Clarke" <  2008-02-20 11:18:16 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-20 19:54:33 
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GTD <Stooopid@[EMAIL P  2008-03-10 16:10:59 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-20 12:01:30 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-20 15:43:39 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-20 19:49:52 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-22 19:31:10 
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Jim Beard <jim.beard@[  2008-02-23 20:22:35 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-27 10:56:07 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-19 20:42:52 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-20 11:38:35 
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"JLC" <jc@[E  2008-02-20 22:49:46 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-21 08:06:44 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-22 09:43:42 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-02-22 11:06:18 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-22 22:38:24 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-27 10:59:50 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-27 22:13:56 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-03 02:07:00 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-03 06:07:01 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-20 11:53:59 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-20 19:57:03 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-19 11:13:10 
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