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Re: AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?

by Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 28, 2008 at 10:22 AM

On Apr 28, 9:20 am, chrisv <chr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Jan Panteltje wrote:
> >>> Wish them luck - without AMD the whole CPU world would be
> >>> boring and damn expensive.
>
> >>Amdroid fantasy.  The PC as a platform is pushed on the low end by
> >>game boxes and on the high end by IBM and Sun.
>
> >>What could be more boring than the x86 domination we have now?
> >>Without AMD, there would be no such monoculture.
>
> >Competition.
> >Intel would still be with Pentium 2 if not for AMD
>
> Or  IA64, with Intel having a complete monopoly, and all that implies.

Without AMD, one of threee things would have happened:

1. Intel would have had the resources to deliver a satisfactory
Itanium product and accompanying compiler on schedule.

2. Intel would have been forced into a partial retreat to x86, anyway.

3. Sparc or Power would be holding much larger market share under any
number of possible licensing and manufacturing arrangements.

I personally believe that what we've got is the worst of all possible
worlds: AMD on death's door, Microsoft holding on to its monopoly
catering to just one ISA, and, to all intents and purposes, zero
diversity in processor architecture.

Robert.
 




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AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?
AirRaid <AirRaid1500@[  2008-04-24 00:13:14 
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2008-04-25 13:07:36 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-26 02:21:42 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-25 20:26:04 
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"Augustus" <  2008-04-26 03:33:55 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-25 23:20:29 
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"Augustus" <  2008-04-26 04:29:18 
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"Augustus" <  2008-04-25 23:45:09 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-26 10:17:48 
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Jan Panteltje <PNaonSt  2008-04-26 17:50:51 
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Stephen Wolstenholme <  2008-04-26 19:38:35 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-28 08:20:55 
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sanjumish1 <sanjumish1  2008-06-05 07:59:12 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 02:16:35 
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Miles Bader <miles.bad  2008-04-28 19:06:28 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:18:24 
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"Gary Colligan"  2008-04-29 23:52:33 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 19:22:56 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:53:27 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-30 16:35:38 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 00:19:50 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-30 17:24:18 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-01 03:37:23 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-30 22:14:23 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-28 10:22:52 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:16:42 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-28 23:29:47 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-04-29 05:11:20 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:28:55 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:36:13 
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Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-04-29 08:32:54 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-28 23:37:44 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:58:53 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-28 18:26:09 
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Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-29 06:57:46 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-29 20:41:11 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 18:45:01 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:45:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-29 15:03:14 
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Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-30 17:22:23 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 12:41:02 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-09 09:56:55 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-12 17:31:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-12 13:01:05 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-13 12:51:54 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 11:09:27 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-13 10:22:43 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-15 12:33:02 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-20 18:48:37 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-20 17:30:26 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-20 22:39:42 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-21 15:01:39 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-20 20:06:04 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-23 11:11:45 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-26 03:17:21 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-30 10:39:47 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-02 23:25:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-06-03 08:54:49 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-04 21:09:10 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-06-04 15:19:09 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-05 11:01:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-06-05 09:36:51 
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