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Re: AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?

by krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 28, 2008 at 07:16 PM

In article <148227ac-ece0-4a24-97be-
47197bb1293c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, rbmyersusa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
says...
> On Apr 28, 9:20 am, chrisv <chr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > >>> Wish them luck - without AMD the whole CPU world would be
> > >>> boring and damn expensive.
> >
> > >>Amdroid fantasy.  The PC as a platform is pushed on the low end by
> > >>game boxes and on the high end by IBM and Sun.
> >
> > >>What could be more boring than the x86 domination we have now?
> > >>Without AMD, there would be no such monoculture.
> >
> > >Competition.
> > >Intel would still be with Pentium 2 if not for AMD
> >
> > Or  IA64, with Intel having a complete monopoly, and all that implies.
> 
> Without AMD, one of threee things would have happened:
> 
> 1. Intel would have had the resources to deliver a satisfactory
> Itanium product and accompanying compiler on schedule.

Oh, give me a break!  They blew an infinite source of money down 
that rat hole as it was.

> 2. Intel would have been forced into a partial retreat to x86, anyway.

How did you come up with that dream?

> 3. Sparc or Power would be holding much larger market share under any
> number of possible licensing and manufacturing arrangements.

That one too?

> I personally believe that what we've got is the worst of all possible
> worlds: AMD on death's door, Microsoft holding on to its monopoly
> catering to just one ISA, and, to all intents and purposes, zero
> diversity in processor architecture.

Of course you do; anything but competition from AMD.

-- 
Keith
 




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AirRaid <AirRaid1500@[  2008-04-24 00:13:14 
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2008-04-25 13:07:36 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-26 02:21:42 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-25 20:26:04 
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"Augustus" <  2008-04-26 03:33:55 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-25 23:20:29 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-26 10:17:48 
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Jan Panteltje <PNaonSt  2008-04-26 17:50:51 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-28 08:20:55 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 02:16:35 
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Miles Bader <miles.bad  2008-04-28 19:06:28 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:18:24 
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"Gary Colligan"  2008-04-29 23:52:33 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:16:42 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-04-29 05:11:20 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:28:55 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:36:13 
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Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-04-29 08:32:54 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:58:53 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-28 18:26:09 
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Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-29 06:57:46 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-29 20:41:11 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-29 15:03:14 
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