Re: AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?

Wes Newell wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:45:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>> Wes Newell wrote:
>> 
>>>On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:18:24 -0400, krw wrote:
>>>>
>>>> miles.bader@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course AMD _did_ come up with "x86-64", which is an improvement
>>>>> over the x86 (obviously even Intel thinks so).
>>>> 
>>>> Intel did too, but had no interest in pu****ng it forward to product.
>>>
>>>Funny, that's not how I recall it. Intel dropped their x86-64 bit plans
>>>after trying to push it onto Microsoft, and Microsoft telling them to
>>>shove off. I think this link will get more to the truth.
>> 
>> That was later.  Intel had explored 64-bit extensions to X86 years
>> earlier.  (How could they not?  CPU's are their business.)
>
>Of course they had. But they didn't want 64 bit to come out for x86 to 
>compete with Itanium. And by trying to protect it, they basically screwed

>themselves. Only after AMD released theirs did they try to bring their
x86 
>64 bit code out. MS had already done a version of windows for Itanium and

>weren't going to play Intels games at their expense.

None of that disputes what Keith or I have claimed.  I think we're all
on the same page, now.