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Re: AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?

by Sebastian Kaliszewski <s.usun.to@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 26, 2008 at 04:44 PM

Robert Myers wrote:
> I thought financial wizards knew how to estimate risk.

What risk? You dont understand squat what you talk about. There is no
general risk. So what risk? If they failed at one field doesnt mean they
fail in much simpler ones. Show me one example of impropely estimated risk
wrt to software bringing down one of those companies...

> This is not a discussion of politics.  I brought him up as another
> "expert" that no one who knew recent history would cite.  Financial
> institutions claim that one of their areas of special expertise is
> management of risk.  Recent history has proven that they are at best
> unreliable.

Unreliable in what field?

> The difference is that most software risk is not unexpected and can be
> eliminated.

Oh, you start to get it!

So contrary to financial markets which as Keith described nicely are
Schroedinger Cat on Steroids, software is a good behaved beast.


> As painful as the shuttle disasters were, we learned things from each
> one.  They have resulted in changes in methodology, not drugs to
> increase imaginative capacity.  What will *not* happen, unfortunately,
> is to recognize the behavior patterns of managers present in both
> cases and to eliminate such people from critical decision-making
> roles.

And you know why? The behaviour is so typical that noone could be declared
immune to that. 

Sebastian Kaliszewski
-- 
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" -- L. Lang
 




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AirRaid <AirRaid1500@[  2008-04-24 00:13:14 
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2008-04-25 13:07:36 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-26 02:21:42 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-25 23:20:29 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-26 10:17:48 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-28 08:20:55 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 02:16:35 
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Miles Bader <miles.bad  2008-04-28 19:06:28 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:18:24 
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"Gary Colligan"  2008-04-29 23:52:33 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 19:22:56 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:53:27 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-01 03:37:23 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-30 22:14:23 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-28 10:22:52 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:16:42 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-28 23:29:47 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-04-29 05:11:20 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:28:55 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:36:13 
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Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-04-29 08:32:54 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-28 23:37:44 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:58:53 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-28 18:26:09 
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Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-29 06:57:46 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-29 20:41:11 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 18:45:01 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:45:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-29 15:03:14 
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Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-30 17:22:23 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 12:41:02 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-09 09:56:55 
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