Re: AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?

Robert Myers wrote:
>> > I'd like to say that your belief
>> > in free markets is touchingly childlike, but it seems more like
>> > obstinately fundamentalist to me.  I don't care for fundamentalism of
>> > any flavor.
>>
>> Go live in some socialistic country (there is still choce: eithre Cuba
or
>> Northen Corea is good). You'll get your regulation there.
>>
> How long has it been since the Berlin Wall came down?  You're living
> in the Wild West, and you have no business offering me invitations to
> go anywhere.  I wasn't always happy about my involvement in the Cold
> War, but I was damn well involved.  Who are you to insult me like
> that?

Simply go and experience it yourself insted of "being ionwolved".


>> And that's the fact. Otherwise they would be nonexistent.
>>
> They're merging and going out of business at an amazing rate.

Another attempt at twist? 

Are they alive? Or not?

> The 
> only reason they're still afloat is because the US Treasury and
> Federal Reserve have done things they couldn't or wouldn't do in 1929.

Uh, oh.


>> > When I pointed out the obvious, he changed
>> > his assertion.
>>
>> Nope. Your idiotic apples to oranges comparison doesn't change my
>> assertion at all.
>>
> You said they know how to estimate risk.  Very, very famously, they do
> not.

Guy can't fly a plane so he can't drive a car -- it's the same idiotic
logic.


>> > Yes, indeed, just as I said, Wall Street is a kind of
>> > Ponzi scheme, and the game right now is who gets stuck with the bad
>> > paper.
>>
>> Whatever. These guys make money wether there is upturn or downturn. One
>> may like it or not, but their attitude "it's immoral to allow suckers
to
>> keep their money" does work for them. And their risk estimation seems
to
>> work pretty well.
>>
> You're going to lecture me on the fundamentals of markets?  Oh, boy.
> That's rich.  You got any other surprising things you learned at
> school today?

Oh, you "know" software security, medical production, software production,
markets, cold war,  Edsger Dijkstra, NASA, and whatever else. Typical of
high school kid. And, unfortunately, like majority of high school kids you
can't read.


>> > I needed an outrageous counter-example.  No one should be citing
>> > financial institutions as competent to *****s risk
>>
>> You're demonstrating your utter cluelessness here (not to use stronger
>> words)
>>
> Look.  You're in the business of kidding yourself.  Kid away.  Just
> don't try to drag me into your con game.  Risk is risk,  and the
> markets are having a very tough time of it because of exactly the kind
> of over-confidence you are exhibiting.

Blah, blah, blah.
And denial is a maybe a river in Egypt.


>> > I get tired of people talking about the Halting Problem, Goedel,
>> > Turing, P, and NP, and heaven only knows what else.  There are
>> > concrete steps that can be taken to improve the reliability of
>> > software dramatically.  I have no interest at all in cosmic
>> > conclusions about software, or markets, or anything else,
particularly
>> > when garden variety shoddy workman****p is hiding behind cosmic
>> > conclusions.
>>
>> You have no clue about that workman****p at all, so all you talk about
>> that is nonsense.
>>
> You are swimming against the tide. 

LOL!

> The energy that you've put into 
> this discussion is nothing short of amazing.  "Current methods of
> writing and maintaining software are adequate" is a fascinating
> claim.  You must live on another planet.

ROTFL!

You're simply piece of the work. Go on! Keep invenitng what others have
said.

Current methods do work. It doesn't change the fact that these methods do
evolve. But they evolve to make software production more effective not to
satisfy some guy with high school kid attitude and black-white views.


Sebastian Kaliszewski
-- 
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" -- L. Lang