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Re: AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?

by Sebastian Kaliszewski <s.usun.to@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 27, 2008 at 01:32 PM

Robert Myers wrote:
>> > I can regret the direction that an industry is driven by
>> > competitive pressures: the big three auto-makers to large
>> > vehicles and the processor business to x86 monoculture.
>>
>> Then regret human nature.  There are lots of layers,
>> stopping at any particular one is prejudice.
>>
> You'd have a lot of work to do to convince me that there is such a
> thing as human nature, never mind that it explains anything, never
> mind that it is a potential cause of thanksgiving or regret.

Oh. Sure. There is not. You're funny... It's now clear you don't grip the
reality.

[...]
> I really don't want to get into an argument about George Bush.  Saying
> that financial institutions are competent to *****s risk sounds (on
> the face of it) about as plausible as saying that George Bush knows
> how to run a war.  It was a reasonable analogy when I first made it,
> it's still a reasonable analogy, and I refuse to be dragged into a
> political argument.

Neither analogy is reasonable. But it shows your attitude of vast
overgeneralization and plain ignorance of fundamental details. As it's not
G. W. Bush himself who runs the war, as there is no such thing a s just a
risk, etc, etc, etc.


> Capitalism works as long as markets and economies are growing, but so
> do Ponzi schemes.  I'm not sure I can see the difference.

ROTFLMAO!


>> > I get tired of people talking about the Halting Problem,
>> > Goedel, Turing, P, and NP, and heaven only knows what else.
>> > There are concrete steps that can be taken to improve the
>> > reliability of software dramatically.
>>
>> Yes.  They why did you ignore my earlier reference to OpenBSD?
>> They have implemented one solution -- line-by-line review.
>>
> I can't begin to imagine how a line-by-line review of software would
> accomplish anything.  You'll find mistakes, I'm sure.  You won't find
> all the mistakes and the code base is a moving target.

It only shows how far you're from having a clue.


>> But you also need a lot of cooperation.  You can jail
>> 1% of the population.  But not 10%.
>>
> That's true, although the RIAA seems to be proving that even massive
> civil disobedience can be dealt with.

Yeah, sure. The only made things a bit harder. But still everyone can go
to
one of those Russian sites and download what they want. What those sites
do
is legal in Russia.

> You can't put 10% of the jail 
> in population, but there's nothing to stop you from fining 10% of the
> population or even cutting them off from the Internet.

Of course there is. That's potential 10% of those who vote, that often
makes
big difference. The number starts to be im****tant.

Sebastian Kaliszewski
-- 
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" -- L. Lang
 




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AMD planning 45nm 12-Core 'Istanbul' Processor ?
AirRaid <AirRaid1500@[  2008-04-24 00:13:14 
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2008-04-25 13:07:36 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-26 02:21:42 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-25 20:26:04 
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"Augustus" <  2008-04-26 03:33:55 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-25 23:20:29 
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"Augustus" <  2008-04-26 04:29:18 
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"Augustus" <  2008-04-25 23:45:09 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-26 10:17:48 
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Jan Panteltje <PNaonSt  2008-04-26 17:50:51 
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Stephen Wolstenholme <  2008-04-26 19:38:35 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-28 08:20:55 
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sanjumish1 <sanjumish1  2008-06-05 07:59:12 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-27 02:16:35 
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Miles Bader <miles.bad  2008-04-28 19:06:28 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:18:24 
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"Gary Colligan"  2008-04-29 23:52:33 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 19:22:56 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:53:27 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-30 16:35:38 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 00:19:50 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-30 17:24:18 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-01 03:37:23 
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"Zootal" <gi  2008-04-30 22:14:23 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-28 10:22:52 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:16:42 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-28 23:29:47 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-04-29 05:11:20 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:28:55 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:36:13 
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Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-04-29 08:32:54 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-28 23:37:44 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-28 19:58:53 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-28 18:26:09 
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Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-29 06:57:46 
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scott@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-29 20:41:11 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-29 18:45:01 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 08:45:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-04-29 15:03:14 
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Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-30 17:22:23 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 12:41:02 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-09 09:56:55 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-12 17:31:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-12 13:01:05 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-13 12:51:54 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-05-13 11:09:27 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-13 10:22:43 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-15 11:10:47 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-15 12:33:02 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-20 12:15:18 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-20 18:48:37 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-20 17:30:26 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-20 22:39:42 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-21 15:01:39 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-20 20:06:04 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-21 20:34:28 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-21 10:35:24 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-22 14:40:55 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-22 09:58:16 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-23 11:11:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-23 09:28:07 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-26 03:17:21 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-26 17:58:11 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-27 11:31:26 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-26 11:48:07 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-27 12:02:27 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-26 12:19:01 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-27 12:23:21 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-26 17:31:30 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-27 13:32:55 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-28 10:44:42 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-28 16:29:41 
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"Del Cecchi" &l  2008-06-13 10:48:22 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-27 10:36:40 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-28 16:55:15 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-05-28 10:21:35 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-27 12:04:39 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-28 12:40:07 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-27 13:21:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-28 09:44:29 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-28 10:01:43 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-29 10:46:02 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-28 11:54:13 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-28 13:10:54 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-29 12:02:29 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-28 13:28:40 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-05-29 12:15:27 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-28 18:46:51 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-30 10:39:47 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-29 09:35:22 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-29 09:52:01 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-29 10:07:48 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-05-31 13:01:47 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-05-29 11:47:49 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-01 12:05:31 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-06-01 10:25:40 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-02 23:25:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-06-03 08:54:49 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-04 21:09:10 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-06-04 15:19:09 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-05 11:01:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-06-05 09:36:51 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-06 19:33:54 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-06-08 18:11:51 

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