Re: Multi-core and memory

"Chris Thomasson" <cristom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Chris Thomasson" <cristom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "MitchAlsup" <MitchAlsup@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On May 22, 12:23 am, "Chris Thomasson" <cris...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> > IMVHO, drastically reducing the physical distance between the chip 
>>> > and its
>>> > local memory can be very im****tant factor wrt scalability concerns. 
>>> > It
>>> > should be ideal to merge the chip and a couple of GB of memory into 
>>> > a single
>>> > unit.
>>> >
>>> > Intra-CPU to local memory communication would use shared memory, 
>>> > and
>>> > inter-CPU and remote memory communication would use message 
>>> > passing. It
>>> > seems the scheme could be made to work... What am I missing?
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>>> Heat disipation. One could, in principle, design a DRAM daughtercard
>>> that had an Opteron/Barcelona socket in the middle, ranks of DRAMs to
>>> the left and right, and HT links through the pins. Dealing with the
>>> 100Watts of power at the center would make the spacing between
>>> daughter cards pretty large, and cooling a little on the difficult
>>> side.
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>>> BUT it is possible today, if you wanted to try and make a go of it.
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> Do you know of _any_ venture capitalists who might be even remotely 
> interested in reducing the physical distance between processing 
> elements and their local/regional memory source(s)? My cousins sister 
> is good friends with a guy from Google (his first name is Ray). Should 
> I ask him what he thinks? Would I be wasting his time???? He spends his 
> some of hard earned money in the form of donations to the South Lake 
> Tahoe Basin and Douglas County Region of Nevada. This is real. I have 
> several Ideas, but I DO NOT like to WASTE peoples TIME! Any advise 
> Sir?!
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> ;^/
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>> Humm. I was thinking that a clever mixture of high-end liquid cooling 
>> systems and fans might be able to help things out in this specific 
>> problem domain.
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> Are there any integral caveats wrt state-of-the-art liquid and fan 
> intergraded cooling systems?

Perhaps you ought to review IBM Mainframe designs, high end Pseries 
designs, and Blue Gene/L and BlueGene/P.

or are you guys just being snarky and I didn't notice?

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