Robert Myers wrote:
> Something wrong with Via? They're doing interesting things.
>
> Or do you just get off on Intel and US-ba****ng?
>
> HP is putting Via processors into subnotebooks. Via is apparently
> doing what AMD did with some (fleeting) success, which is to exploit
> the op****tunities created by Intel's market segmentation strategies.
>
> Plenty to talk about, just not much room for Intel-ba****ng.
Oh look, flaming discussions again on csiphc just like in the olden
days, goodie! Oh what the hell, it looks like I can follow this one,
I'll sit in on it. In the olden days, these "discussions" used to get so
long, I couldn't follow them anymore.
Speaking of VIA, just a few weeks back Nvidia announced that they would
sup****t VIA's new low-power processors with chipsets of their own. Then
just a few weeks later it turned out they were just using VIA as a
negotiating ploy against Intel, so that Intel will grant them an Atom
chipset license; and they'd dump VIA overboard as soon as they got an
Atom license. Now that makes Nvidia one ruthless mf'er!
Nvidia spurns Intel Atom for VIA, spurns VIA for Intel Atom? | Register
Hardware
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/07/08/nvidia_via_intel_atom/
Nvidia has been trying these ploys for ages now, and now they are
getting their ***** burned. They had been refusing to give Intel or
anybody else an SLI license so that multi Nvidia video card setups can
run on anything but Nvidia chipsets. This was successful until the point
when the latest AMD Radeon HD 4000-series (4850, 4870, 4870 X2) cards
started showing up and providing competitive performance at lower prices
than the latest Nvidia GTX 200-series (260, 280) cards. Intel which
ironically has a license to produce AMD's Crossfire multi card
technology now no longer needs Nvidia, thanks to AMD. So Nvidia had to
abandon the negotiating ploy and just give in to Intel and make SLI
available on Intel's upcoming chipsets.
Whoop-ass turns to groveling - The INQUIRER
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/14/whoop-ass-turns-groveling
Nvidia is also having to cut the prices on its video cards due to the
competitive parity of the AMD cards now. However, Nvidia's GPUs are
monsters compared to AMD's, at least twice as big, so it costs Nvidia
more to make them than it does AMD. It's quickly shoving Nvidia into the
red. This is exactly the sort of scenario that was predicted will
eventually happen once the AMD & ATI marriage matured, and Nvidia found
itself on the outside looking in. Nvidia still has the absolute
top-performance cards, but not the best price/performance.
So it looks like AMD is making the ATI acquisition work for it a bit.
It's not really challenging Intel yet, but it's starting to happen
against Nvidia.
Techtree.com India > News > Hardware > Nvidia Slashes GTX 280 and 260
Prices
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Nvidia_Slashes_GTX_280_and_260_Prices/551-91118-581.html
AMD is still suffering, but it seems to be a trailing indicator, as it
sorts out the final acts of the merger, and moves forward. When AMD
completes the Fusion processors, with the CPU and GPU integrated, then
things will look up.
Yousuf Khan
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