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Re: Group dead?

by Robert Redelmeier <redelm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 5, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in part:
> and yet, because she'd sat around the dinner table listening
> to others who also didn't know what they were talking about,
> she presumed to lecture me.  The perfect model of a slashdot
> or usenet poster.

Why does this bother you?  I listen to such people with bemused
tolerence (knowing they've got it mixed up) and listen for the gem.
There usually is some gem they mention that I hadn't previously
considered.  And they almost never realize is significant.  A data
dump can be worth sifting through.  Often you can't avoid it.

> I'm sick of the BS.  You've presumed to educate me

??? why do you presume this?  As I posted in a sub-thread,
you flatter yourself. 

> Tout ce que nous enseigne est farce.
             ^^ 
             on

At least get the quotation right.  OTOH, maybe you mean what you said :) 

> You could divide the world into those who believe what their
> parents taught them and those who don't.  I belong to the latter
> category, as did Rimbaud.  There's room for both styles, just
> as long as you're not overly insistent about yours.

Excessively binary for something on a continuum.  When 
im****tant, I try to figure out why people believe what they do.

>> > You've switched from how do I measure latency
>> Which you did not answer.
> Look up what David Wang has written here about his own latency
> measurements and you'll understand why I think it's a total
> waste of time.  The raw number is just meaningless.  Why should
> I measure something that I that I think is meaningless?

That is a slightly better answer.  But my measurements 
include prefetch which you admit are more interesting.

> "Many layers of meaning" is a phrase that a not very
> original English professor would use over sherry after
> an incomprehensible seminar.  

So?  That does not mean the phrase always is wrong.

> To quote Wallace Stevens,  "Let be be finality of seem." 

_finale_ of seem.  How is this relevant?


> The statement says a lot about how Terje thinks.  You don't
> have to guess about the many layers of meaning he sees,
> because he's talked about them publicly.

Then why do you complain of my referring to the 
many layers of meaning???  They belong.

> But you're trying to educate me about what he meant, just
> as you've tried to educate me about so many other things.

To be very clear:  I'm am not trying to educate you on
anything. I haven't even considered if it is possible.


-- Robert
 




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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-15 16:10:02 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 09:55:32 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-15 19:02:50 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-07-15 13:48:59 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-15 20:10:03 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-07-16 09:14:10 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-15 17:55:05 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-16 00:25:14 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-15 18:59:28 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-07-23 09:59:12 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 11:08:22 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-22 17:08:52 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 13:09:51 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 13:07:42 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-31 15:47:07 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-01 16:01:51 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-05 16:49:56 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-06 19:18:02 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-09-04 13:08:45 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-09-04 17:22:44 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-09-05 11:29:15 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-25 14:47:39 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-30 11:35:13 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-04 12:02:42 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-04 12:28:10 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-05 22:42:55 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 14:48:38 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-29 07:56:53 
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aku ankka <jukka@[EMAI  2008-09-29 07:26:56 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-30 09:08:08 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-29 19:47:45 
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aku ankka <jukka@[EMAI  2008-10-01 01:02:39 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-07-15 15:37:34 
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt  2008-07-16 10:01:40 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-16 12:32:44 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-07-16 13:16:03 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-16 17:44:45 
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Trent <none@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-16 07:06:13 
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt  2008-07-16 12:00:34 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-19 22:45:43 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-07-23 10:01:51 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 12:28:09 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-26 03:21:05 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-06 19:40:22 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-08-07 10:11:30 
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2008-07-19 18:40:10 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-07-16 07:39:16 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-07-19 17:20:52 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-21 19:24:45 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-22 17:01:44 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-27 10:39:06 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-27 18:10:20 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 11:22:51 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-01 10:17:39 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-02 18:29:07 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-06 19:32:41 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-06 20:51:56 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-07 21:25:00 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-09-07 18:53:05 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-07 17:27:07 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-09-07 19:41:37 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-07 18:49:07 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-27 16:40:54 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-29 03:56:10 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-29 18:08:28 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-28 09:36:48 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-29 04:06:13 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-02 16:55:01 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-03 15:51:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-03 22:55:38 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-09-05 10:56:29 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-05 07:02:18 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-28 22:57:38 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-30 16:33:47 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-28 23:02:36 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-30 16:49:27 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-03 10:16:25 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-03 11:11:02 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-29 18:24:16 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-29 20:38:22 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-29 20:31:21 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-30 16:25:18 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-30 12:29:43 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-20 10:55:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 15:00:52 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-28 16:19:11 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-25 08:16:20 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-30 09:25:49 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-30 15:00:52 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-10-01 12:30:20 
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aku ankka <jukka@[EMAI  2008-09-30 12:26:31 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-10-01 07:09:51 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-21 13:46:57 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-23 03:04:23 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-28 10:24:59 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-29 17:11:19 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-22 20:21:48 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-24 10:57:17 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-29 19:39:45 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-10-01 12:12:01 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-24 08:54:26 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-24 09:55:17 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-25 08:18:10 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-25 21:05:55 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-10-01 07:26:04 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-25 07:47:39 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 08:10:54 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 08:13:54 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 11:17:49 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 13:31:10 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-26 21:15:28 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 12:54:56 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 16:24:18 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 15:22:53 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-28 16:25:54 
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David Kanter <dkanter@  2008-09-28 18:37:28 

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