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Re: Group dead?

by Robert Redelmeier <redelm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Robert Myers <rbmyersusa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in part:
> You've accused me of talking "as if" something were true.  

Yes, specifically because you make flat assertions which 
you do not defend with other than flat assertions,
ad-hominems and other unreliable measures.

> I wonder if there even is such a thing as the truth and,
> in any case, I don't think I've discovered it.

Wow!  This is the first sign I've seen from you of any doubt.

> I do think I've figured out a few things that you with your
> "logic" aren't even aware of.

Perhaps. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence" [Cowper]
You might be right, if only on a random basis.  However,
the absence of sup****ting facts and argumentation make
your statements unreliable and improbable.


> Then you learned nothing from it about the central character
> in the movie.  In some respects the movie is pure fantasy:
> MIT and therapy are both inaccurately ****trayed.  On the
> other hand, the writers clearly understood what made Will
> Hunting tick much better than you do. 
	
What is to learn?  This is pure fiction carefully and
commercially crafted to entertain.  Following the common
"Cinderella" theme of goodness overcoming adversity.
Not even "based on a true story", it doesn't even rise
to the level of anecdotal evidence.

> In particular, they understood how childhood abuse had
> shaped him into the maladaptively combative adult he became.

No.  The writers (Damon & Affleck) wrote a story their
audience would like.  Of course, since it isn't totally
impossible, it might happen. 

>> > If I don't entertain or amuse, then don't bother with me.
>> <shudder>I do not look for entertainment or amusement from you!
> Then don't bother with me.

More flat assertions.  I can choose why I deal with you.


>> > *Now* you have been patronized.
>> Really, I don't feel it.
> Small wonder.  You are very well defended, and I'm not a therapist.

Who is defending me?  Insults do not much bother me:  either
they are true or they are untrue.  If they are true, then saying
it changes nothing except to alert me to the possibility I
might wish to change.  If they are untrue, then it just reveals
the carelessness of the utterer.  I'm not insecure about what
bystanders think.

I must admit you are a bit of a special case:  your thinking
processes appear so unreliable to me that I expect and welcome
insults.  It is when you say things that from others would be
compliments that I become seriously concerned.


-- Robert
 




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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-15 16:10:02 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 09:55:32 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-15 19:02:50 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-07-15 13:48:59 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-15 20:10:03 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-07-16 09:14:10 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-15 17:55:05 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-16 00:25:14 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-15 18:59:28 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-07-23 09:59:12 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 11:08:22 
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"Dean Kent" <  2008-08-21 11:15:11 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-22 17:08:52 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 13:09:51 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 13:07:42 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-31 15:47:07 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-01 16:01:51 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-05 16:49:56 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-06 19:18:02 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-09-04 13:08:45 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-09-04 17:22:44 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-09-05 11:29:15 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-09-05 21:22:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-25 14:47:39 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-30 09:48:30 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-30 11:35:13 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-04 12:02:42 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-04 12:28:10 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-05 22:42:55 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 14:48:38 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-29 07:56:53 
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aku ankka <jukka@[EMAI  2008-09-29 07:26:56 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-30 09:08:08 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-29 19:47:45 
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aku ankka <jukka@[EMAI  2008-10-01 01:02:39 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-07-15 15:37:34 
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt  2008-07-16 10:01:40 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-16 12:32:44 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-07-16 13:16:03 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-16 17:44:45 
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Trent <none@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-16 07:06:13 
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt  2008-07-16 12:00:34 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-19 02:43:45 
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Murray Symon <firstnam  2008-07-19 17:02:24 
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"Jack" <Jack  2008-07-19 22:45:43 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-07-19 23:29:51 
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"Dale E. Pontius&quo  2008-07-23 10:01:51 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 12:28:09 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-26 03:21:05 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-06 19:40:22 
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archmage@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-08-07 10:11:30 
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@[E  2008-07-19 18:40:10 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-07-16 07:39:16 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-07-19 17:20:52 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-21 19:24:45 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-22 17:01:44 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-27 10:39:06 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-27 18:10:20 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 11:22:51 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-01 10:17:39 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-02 18:29:07 
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"Dean Kent" <  2008-09-03 20:33:56 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-06 19:32:41 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-06 20:51:56 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-07 21:25:00 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-09-07 18:53:05 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-07 17:27:07 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-09-07 19:41:37 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-07 18:49:07 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-27 16:40:54 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-29 03:56:10 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-29 18:08:28 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-28 09:36:48 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-29 04:06:13 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-02 16:55:01 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-03 15:51:45 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-03 22:55:38 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-04 18:23:32 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-04 18:58:25 
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Sebastian Kaliszewski <  2008-09-05 10:56:29 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-05 07:02:18 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-28 22:57:38 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-30 16:33:47 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-28 23:02:36 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-30 16:49:27 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-03 10:16:25 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-04 18:19:23 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-03 11:11:02 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-04 18:31:21 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-29 18:24:16 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-29 20:38:22 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-08-29 20:31:21 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-08-30 16:25:18 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-08-30 12:29:43 
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"nobody@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-09-01 00:51:51 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-20 10:55:56 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-21 19:19:58 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 15:00:52 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-28 16:19:11 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-25 08:16:20 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-30 09:25:49 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-30 15:00:52 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-10-01 12:30:20 
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aku ankka <jukka@[EMAI  2008-09-30 12:26:31 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-10-01 07:09:51 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-21 13:46:57 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-23 03:04:23 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-28 10:24:59 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-29 17:11:19 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-22 20:21:48 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-24 10:57:17 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-29 19:39:45 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-10-01 12:12:01 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-24 08:54:26 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-24 09:55:17 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-25 08:18:10 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-25 21:05:55 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-10-01 07:26:04 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-25 07:47:39 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 08:10:54 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 08:13:54 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 11:17:49 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 13:31:10 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-26 21:15:28 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 12:54:56 
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chrisv <chrisv@[EMAIL   2008-09-26 16:24:18 
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Robert Myers <rbmyersu  2008-09-26 15:22:53 
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Robert Redelmeier <red  2008-09-28 16:25:54 
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David Kanter <dkanter@  2008-09-28 18:37:28 

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