Re: tiny inductor with every bypass cap?

Hi Vladimar,

"Vladimir Vassilevsky" <antispam_bogus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> Despite of the popular beliefs, many
> analog or digital designs can be built in two layers just fine. It takes
> care, understanding and attention to details.

For many companies, coming up with that "care, understanding, and
attention to 
detail" requires both significant time and often money -- so I think MK's 
point is valid, since those are not always available!

But I think that all of us would be interested to hear your advice on 
designing high-speed/low-noise circuitry on two-layer PCBs; it's not the
sort 
of material that's commonly discussed.

Do you recommend any microcontrollers or DSPs with decent references
on-board? 
We use a number of Atmel AVR microcontrollers and most often it's with an 
external reference, as the internal one is pretty bad; about +/-10% (!). 
Being charitable, I want to believe that you just can't build a reference 
that's much better using whatever process they have available to them, but

perhaps it is just a lack of better circuit designers (e.g., someone like
Jim 
could easily build them 1% references using the same process).

---Joel