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Re: on winding a transformer

by mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 29, 2008 at 11:23 PM

On Jun 29, 10:32 pm, "Paul E. Schoen" <pst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:CrX9k.6561$L_.111@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
> > Phil above has it right. That gif is a flyback design. The primary
with
> > the
> > air gapped core forms an inductor designed to handle the DC component.
>
> > Interestingly some torroids can work in this mode, most cannot. The
ones
> > that can have a powdered iron core. The minute spacings between the
iron
> > grains form the equivalent of an air gap.
>
> > Again, you have to know what your core is to determine how to use it.
I
> > know
> > you got it from a power supply but that doesn't mean much without some
> > knowledge of the circuit.
>
> > It is possible to measure the core if you have a scope and a few
> > components
> > by winding a test winding on it then measuring the B-H curve. Then, by
> > applying DC, determine how the curve responds and what happens to the
> > saturation characteristics.
>
> > But, that's part of a course in magnetics and probably a bit beyond
the
> > scope of what you are trying to do.
>
> > I tell you to add a capacitor to the primary to keep DC out of the
core.
> > That is the safest thing to do, but your drive circuit has to both
source
> > and sink current. You can't do this with a single FET. You'll probably
> > have
> > to use a half bridge or what amounts to a two switch forward
> > configuration.
>
> > I think the turns ratio of 12:100 is correct. Remember you will have
+/-
> > 6
> > volts on the primary and +/- 50 volts center taped on the secondary.
> > That's
> > 6:50 or 12:100, same thing.
>
> This sounds a lot like the same project that was discussed by the OP at
> length March 22 ("Need a big transformer") and March 31 ("transformers
in
> parallel"). If the OP simply needs +/- 24 VDC at 2 (or even 5) amps,
there
> are easier and better ways to get that than tinkering with parts from an
> old PC power supply. Unless you need something with exotic
specifications,
> you can always buy it for less than you can build it (unless your time
is
> worth nothing or it is mostly for learning). And for learning, it is
best
> to build basic circuits until you understand them, and there is also a
lot
> you can do by just running simulations. Much better and safer than
blowing
> up parts in a breadboard.
>
> I bought a 200 watt dual output +/- 43V 2A switcher originally designed
for
> an audio amp for about $22 on eBay, and it is a well-made device that
will
> meet my needs if I ever decide to build a high-power op-amp or audio
> amplifier.
>
> Paul



Yep, same project, and learning is the main objective (along with
powering an LM3886 someday).

I already built a boost power supply with a 555 switching the same
inductor, pulsing at 100 Hz.  It provided about 100VDC (!!), powered a
4W 120V night light, and heated my TIP31As (but not my IRF530 - guess
the R_ds_on, was lower than the resistance of the TIP31A).

I've learned loads since the boost converter project, and I'm still
learning.

I'm using a 12V battery as a starting point - safer than a first
homemade switcher powered by the mains.

Thanks,

Michael
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
on winding a transformer
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-29 13:29:19 
Re: on winding a transformer
"Bob Eld" <n  2008-06-29 14:27:14 
Re: on winding a transformer
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-29 14:40:43 
Re: on winding a transformer
"Phil Allison"   2008-06-30 09:51:45 
Re: on winding a transformer
"Bob Eld" <n  2008-06-29 19:22:26 
Re: on winding a transformer
"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-06-30 01:32:41 
Re: on winding a transformer
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-06-30 09:32:55 
Re: on winding a transformer
"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-07-01 00:34:50 
Re: on winding a transformer
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-29 23:23:43 
Re: on winding a transformer
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-06-30 09:36:04 
Re: on winding a transformer
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-30 12:01:39 
Re: on winding a transformer
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-01 11:40:17 

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