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Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???

by John Fields <jfields@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 3, 2008 at 12:11 PM

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:57:48 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>On 7/3/08 7:53 AM, in article 8spp64hncghn88d0gqbensnerupo39h4k0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"John Fields" <jfields@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:44:53 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:

>>> Perhaps you could post a link that plots the negative resistance
region of
>>> a neon lamp?
>> 
>> ---
>> news:lnpp64t1q9ohk1d1ar57dhd673pmaif3g6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> JF
>
>Thanks.
>
>I had already thought more about the neon lamp and decided it could have,
or
>appear to have, a negative resistance region, so I did some google work
and
>found several trustworthy articles sup****ting it.  I also found one
credible
>article saying the effect is not negative resistance, but...... If it
quacks
>like a duck it's probably a duck.
>
>IMHO the typical neon tube relaxation "oscillator" does not use that
effect,
>however, but uses the gross cap discharge to begin a next charge cycle. 

---
I agree, and stated that in an earlier post. :-)
---

>The external R must be high enough to allow the voltage across the tube
to fall
>far enough to extinguish the lamp.

---
Yes, and when the gas in the tube deionizes to the point where current
through it falls to a low enough level, the "striking voltage" must
then be raised high enough to once again start the ionization.
--- 

>This will be a good slow-day plaything.  I think I'll put a parallel
>resonant circuit in series with the lamp and variable voltage
source.......

---
Sounds like fun. :-)

If you want to you can go here:

http://www.duntemann.com/12vtubes/datasheetsindex.htm

and download all 80 megabytes (!) of the GE glow lamp manual. 

JF
 




 15 Posts in Topic:
My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
"jalbers@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-02 13:49:49 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
"Andrew Holme"   2008-07-02 22:01:11 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
"Bob Eld" <n  2008-07-02 16:14:01 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-02 17:23:47 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
"Bob Eld" <n  2008-07-02 19:06:26 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-02 22:44:53 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-03 09:53:08 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-03 08:57:48 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-03 12:11:03 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-02 22:13:55 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-07-02 19:55:12 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
"Phil Allison"   2008-07-03 15:09:51 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
"petrus bitbyter&quo  2008-07-03 13:59:01 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
mzenier@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-03 22:27:59 
Re: My NE-2 Relaxation Oscillator is Too Relaxed ???
Rich Grise <rich@[EMAI  2008-07-07 23:49:36 

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