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Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As

by mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 3, 2008 at 10:54 PM

On Jul 3, 6:54 pm, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> <mrdarr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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news:7edf1122-2064-4799-9661-4828c556a5ce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > I built an astable multivibrator with blinking lights (much simpler
> > than using a 556!), as a test for a circuit that will use a power
> > transistor (or MOSFET) to pulse a transformer primary for future
> > experiments.
>
> >http://mrdarrett.googlepages.com/blinkenlights002.pdf
>
> > Strangely, when I replaced the two 2N3904 transistors with TIP31As,
> > the circuit would not oscillate unless I briefly disconnected then re-
> > connected R2 or R3.  (I bumped the voltage up from 3V to 6V during
> > these tests.)
>
> > As a work-around, I'm considering just putting the 2N3904s back in,
> > and connecting the positive end of C2 to the base of a TIP31A.
> > Inelegant, but I think it will work.
>
> > I'm trying to figure out why TIP31As won't work, but it also doesn't
> > help me any that the TIP31A data sheet does not specify a minimum
> > V_BE_on.
>
> >http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/12292/tip31a.pdf
>
> > Input?
>
> > Michael
>
> One possible reason it doesn't work with certain transistors is that the
two
> transistors come on together and lock up the operation. It fails to
> flip-flop.  Also, there might not be enough base current for TIP31's
with R2
> and R3 at 10K. Lower these resistors. The minimum beta is 25 at 1 amp.
so
> you're likely not getting enough current to drive these transistors.
>
> To insure that an astable won't lock up, disconnect R2 and R3 from the
> positive rail and connect the junction of the two resistors to the
cathodes
> of two diodes. Connect the anodes of the diodes to the anodes of the
LED's,
> one on each.
>
> With this arrangement,  if the transistors both come on together, the
base
> drive is reduced and the circuit will always start.


Thanks!

Michael
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-03 15:25:13 
Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
"Bob Eld" <n  2008-07-03 18:54:27 
Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-03 22:54:24 
Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-07-04 02:45:49 
Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
mrdarrett@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-04 10:02:50 
Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-07-04 15:20:40 
Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
"Bob Monsen" &l  2008-07-04 11:32:07 
Re: astable multivibrator issues - 2N3904s work, but not TIP31As
Michael Black <et472@[  2008-07-04 15:29:09 

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