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300 kW EV Tractor vs 400 hp Diesel

by BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 23, 2008 at 03:03 PM

The Tesla is powered by 7,000 Li-Ion laptop batteries for an output of
200 kW.

A similarly powered 300 kW electric tractor (10,500 batteries) would
turn a 400 hp articulated 22 gallon/hour diesel tractor every which
way but loose in a tractor pull which apparently is vitally necessary
education as well as entertainment for those too ignorant do basic
IEOR calculations.

Running either tractor wide open to work a square mile at 0.5 mph
would take 3 months of 7 day work weeks at 8 hours / day.

It would also require 17,000 gallons of diesel.

Today the cost is "only" $80,000 for the diesel.

In 2 years, with the price of hydrocarbon fuel spiraling by 30% a
year, that cost will be $150,000/yr.

In six years the cost of the fuel will be half a million dollars.

And that's just for one field.

Maybe if we have massive truck and bus conversion to natural gas --
include farm tractors in Pickens plan -- the price will "only" be
$350,000/field in 6 years.

The battery tractor would be cheaper even if grid power tripled and
even if you went to your overpriced Apple Inc. store and bought the
batteries one by one and wired them together one by one yourself.

Now, if you don't believe laptop batteries exist, please go to alt.
conspiracy and post there.


Bret Cahill
 




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300 kW EV Tractor vs 400 hp Diesel
BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 15:03:07 
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"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-07-23 21:38:32 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 20:05:32 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-24 06:21:17 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 20:58:02 
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phil hays <philhays@[E  2008-07-24 04:08:02 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 21:57:28 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-24 06:05:52 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-24 07:04:16 
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phil hays <philhays@[E  2008-07-24 05:34:31 
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Tim Wescott <tim@[EMAI  2008-07-23 22:52:36 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 23:52:41 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-26 15:29:07 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-26 15:33:03 
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"rlbell.nsuid@[EMAIL  2008-07-24 08:51:13 
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Mark Thorson <nospam@[  2008-07-24 10:50:53 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-24 11:07:24 
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Mark Thorson <nospam@[  2008-07-24 11:17:53 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-24 11:33:57 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-24 11:53:44 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-24 18:25:54 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-24 11:57:13 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-24 13:29:16 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-24 18:39:55 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-24 14:28:37 
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"Rob Dekker" &l  2008-07-24 18:59:06 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-24 20:33:19 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-24 20:35:40 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 08:05:04 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-24 20:56:36 
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"Rob Dekker" &l  2008-07-24 22:13:31 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-25 18:21:34 
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"Rob Dekker" &l  2008-07-25 13:52:06 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-26 02:17:42 
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terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-07-26 13:13:41 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 08:34:52 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-26 02:19:10 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 14:42:50 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 16:13:21 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-24 21:16:29 
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"Rob Dekker" &l  2008-07-25 00:37:05 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 09:01:10 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-24 21:21:04 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 09:02:52 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-25 09:35:37 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-25 11:16:42 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-25 10:06:16 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-25 11:41:36 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 14:21:48 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-25 18:18:15 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-25 11:43:20 
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"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-07-25 15:44:43 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-25 21:10:01 
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"Rob Dekker" &l  2008-07-25 13:57:23 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-25 16:20:25 
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"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-07-25 18:43:22 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-26 02:13:15 
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terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-07-26 13:17:28 
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"Rob Dekker" &l  2008-07-25 22:43:42 
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terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-07-27 13:26:00 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-26 02:45:04 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-07-25 13:25:05 
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disgoftunwells <disgof  2008-07-25 15:17:58 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-07-25 17:19:02 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-26 02:47:35 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-07-26 09:08:05 
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terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-07-27 13:30:45 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-30 08:33:28 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-30 11:12:33 
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Day Brown <daybrown@[E  2008-07-26 09:33:05 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-26 14:39:03 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-07-26 14:49:46 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-26 15:11:07 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-26 15:42:52 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-26 21:14:16 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-26 15:47:12 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-26 21:22:34 
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disgoftunwells <disgof  2008-07-29 08:02:16 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-07-29 08:23:08 
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Mark Thorson <nospam@[  2008-07-29 11:40:05 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-30 09:42:17 
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Sevenhundred Elves <se  2008-07-31 14:11:29 
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Mark <makolber@[EMAIL   2008-07-29 11:04:00 
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"Paul E. Schoen"  2008-07-29 14:33:53 
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Dean Hoffman <"&q  2008-07-29 21:49:55 
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Dean Hoffman <"&q  2008-07-29 22:03:49 
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disgoftunwells <disgof  2008-07-29 13:48:54 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-29 17:26:49 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-29 17:48:01 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-30 05:43:59 
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terryc <newssixspam-sp  2008-07-31 21:56:37 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-31 07:12:15 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-29 20:53:42 
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Mark <makolber@[EMAIL   2008-07-30 06:11:57 
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Dean Hoffman <"&q  2008-08-03 21:27:02 
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John <nohj@[EMAIL PROT  2008-08-04 18:58:01 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-08-11 07:57:34 
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Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-07-30 15:10:27 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-30 07:21:41 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-30 07:28:56 
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John Fields <jfields@[  2008-07-30 10:12:07 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-30 08:46:26 
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"rlbell.nsuid@[EMAIL  2008-07-30 10:16:55 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-07-30 11:21:45 
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Jasen Betts <jasen@[EM  2008-08-01 09:04:54 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-08-01 08:51:02 
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BretCahill@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-08-03 21:10:48 
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Dean Hoffman <"&q  2008-08-10 15:41:40 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-08-04 10:33:31 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-08-04 11:56:43 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-08-05 07:09:39 
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Don Bowey <dbowey@[EMA  2008-08-05 08:29:58 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-08-05 07:12:12 
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Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-08-05 09:05:37 
Re: 300 kW EV Tractor vs 400 hp Diesel
Bret Cahill <BretCahil  2008-08-05 09:34:28 

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