> >>> When looking at battery tech for (PH)EVs, I came across an
> >>> interesting experiment converting a school bus into an electric
> >>> vehicle.
> >>>http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/icat/projects/smud.pdf
> >>> The battery used here is a ZEBRA (NiNaCl liquid salt) battery pack.
> >>> These guys paid $53,500 for their 107 kWh ZEBRA battery (in 2003).
> >>> In volume production, the manufacturer price sheet goes to about
> >>> $20,000 for the same battery pack.
> >>> Lots of benefits here over other battery technologies, most notably
> >>> its cost, it's robustness, safety and its absense of 'rare' metals.
> >>> Nickel and table salt (NaCl) are the main ingredients.
> >>> Technically, school busses (and city busses and most delivery vans)
> >>> seem to be a great early adopter to become "electrified", not just
> >>> because of their frequent stops (regenerative braking advantages),
> >>> and air pollution (noone likes stinking diesels in urban areas), but
> >>> also because they run short trips (no more than one day at a time).
> >>> ZEBRAs seem to have a very bright future in PHEV tech.
> >> Nope, a rather dim one actually, because of the price.
> > Just a few cents/kW-hr if it cycles 5K times, a little more
> > than a dime including the electricity in many places.
> Thats not the price that matters, its the cost of the batterys that
matters.
You mean,
It's not the cost that matters it's the price of the batteries that
matters.
> > In 2 years a perfectly tuned diesel running at optimum speed will be
17 cents/kW- hr.
Totally huge.
> And doesnt need those batterys.
But the price of diesel will be totally huge.
> > In 6 years the diesel will be 50 cents/kW-hr.
> Just another number plucked out of your arse. We can tell that from the
smell.
Nope.
It's gonna be totally huge.
Pathetic.
Ain't gonna happen.
Nuke.
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