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Re: Simulated RF amplifier stability, but with a filter?

by billcalley <billcalley@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 29, 2008 at 09:48 AM

On Mar 28, 3:36=A0pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "billcalley"
>
>
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> > This has been really bugging me: =A0When I design and simulate an RF
> >amplifier(LNA) for a class project, it shows points of huge
> > instability (below the desired passband 'K' is *way* under 1 ).
>
> ** K is a measure of the =A0*potential* for an RFamplifierto oscillate.
>
> A K value less than one means that oscillation possible, with the right
> combination of input Z and load Z.
>
> =A0> But
>
> > when I add a bandpassfilterto the input of the unstable simulated
> >amplifier, the instability is "gone" (the K is now way above 1).
>
> =A0** The BPfiltereliminates a whole *range of values* for input Z from
th=
e
> game =A0- =A0so eliminates the main cause of possible oscillation.
>
> This link might be of interest:
>
> http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Complete-RF-Amplifier-Design-An...
>
> ...... =A0 Phil

   Thanks Phil.  That makes sense to me.  So I guess if a small-signal
amplifier is simulated to be unstable out-of-band, and you add the
desired bandpass filter in front of it, and K now looks good (K<1
across a wide bandwidth), then the entire circuit will be
unconditionally stable when built.  (I was just worried that the
filter was simply "masking" the instability of the circuit by
preventing the S-parameters that determine 'K' from being seen by the
simulator's input ****t, and therefore giving me a false K>1
indication).

Thanks again,

-Bill
 




 6 Posts in Topic:
Simulated RF amplifier stability, but with a filter?
billcalley <billcalley  2008-03-28 14:21:16 
Re: Simulated RF amplifier stability, but with a filter?
"Phil Allison"   2008-03-29 09:36:17 
Re: Simulated RF amplifier stability, but with a filter?
billcalley <billcalley  2008-03-29 09:48:33 
Re: Simulated RF amplifier stability, but with a filter?
dirskyster@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-03-29 13:34:45 
Re: Simulated RF amplifier stability, but with a filter?
payer1005@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-29 13:53:44 
Re: Simulated RF amplifier stability, but with a filter?
dirskyster@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-03-30 20:41:42 

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