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Re: Survey: FPGA PCB layout

by "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 18, 2008 at 09:50 AM

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:0SSNj.2092$7Z2.69@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Errr, well, those sure sound like ivory tower statements. For some
reason 
> all the phenolic I ever used has never smelled.

Maybe you're missing those receptors in your nose? :-)  I've found that 
phenolic has a much stronger smell than FR-4... not necessarily all that 
"malodorous" vs. any other common board materials, but definitely a lot
more 
noticeable.

> Sometimes I wish that professors had more nose-to-the-grindstone
industry 
> work under the belt. I mean real design work where cost is a big factor.

> Otherwise they are going to tell students they should use Rogers for
just 
> about everything ...

Yep, that is a problem.  Have you been to something like IEEE's MTT-S 
recently?  It really is a different world, and unfortunately the same part
of 
our culture that now says you need a BSEE to be an oscilloscope salesman
is, I 
think, what has made it much more difficult for working engineers to enter

academia.  Becoming a EE professor is now seen as a career in and of
itself, 
rather to the preclusion of of being a "practicing" engineer where you
have 
significant cost constraints.

---Joel
 




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Dave <dhschetz@[EMAIL   2008-04-17 09:43:09 
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qrk <SpamTrap@[EMAIL P  2008-04-17 17:40:54 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-17 10:50:36 
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"Steve" <sjb  2008-04-17 17:13:27 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-24 21:36:22 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-25 10:19:34 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-27 06:24:08 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-27 16:25:05 
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John Adair <g1@[EMAIL   2008-04-17 11:36:32 
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Dave <dhschetz@[EMAIL   2008-04-17 15:15:34 
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Jeff Cunningham <jcc@[  2008-04-17 18:51:09 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-17 16:20:32 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-17 16:46:55 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-17 17:52:38 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-18 01:31:40 
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Andy Botterill <andy@[  2008-04-18 07:01:56 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-18 09:50:39 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-18 17:10:22 
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Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SP  2008-04-18 14:05:24 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-18 11:11:43 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-18 11:51:37 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-18 12:28:29 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-18 12:57:56 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-18 20:22:49 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-18 13:42:54 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-19 13:39:10 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-19 20:47:57 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-20 00:54:44 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-19 22:34:30 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-25 06:26:04 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-24 23:08:45 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-25 10:11:20 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-25 18:24:03 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-25 16:03:37 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-26 18:15:03 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-04-26 20:03:04 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-21 09:56:45 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-21 18:56:41 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-21 12:40:55 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-24 23:41:55 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-04-21 15:25:10 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-21 16:31:16 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-24 23:38:52 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-25 06:43:24 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-27 05:57:00 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-27 09:09:57 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-24 22:43:49 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-25 06:58:37 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-25 09:26:03 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-27 06:20:46 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-27 16:22:52 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-04-27 13:44:31 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-27 19:02:40 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-04-27 19:16:37 
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qrk <SpamTrap@[EMAIL P  2008-04-18 18:10:11 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-04-17 20:25:05 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-18 08:31:05 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-04-18 00:09:02 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-18 10:05:14 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-24 23:56:25 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-25 09:31:23 
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nico@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-18 21:07:25 
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hal-usenet@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-18 16:23:18 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-18 14:39:02 
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nico@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-19 08:41:37 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-19 14:17:44 
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nico@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-04-20 08:21:52 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-20 13:22:46 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-04-20 13:47:18 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-20 14:13:21 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-04-20 14:56:15 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-20 17:00:46 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-20 22:20:11 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-21 06:49:31 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-21 20:19:39 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-21 17:54:22 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-21 22:03:59 
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Eric Smith <eric@[EMAI  2008-04-26 00:07:22 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-26 09:05:27 
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JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-04-27 06:36:05 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-27 16:44:01 
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Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SP  2008-04-27 13:32:49 
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"Joel Koltner"   2008-04-21 10:04:21 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-04-21 14:12:16 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-21 20:21:19 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-04-21 17:57:04 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-21 22:05:50 
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krw <krw@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-20 19:31:50 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-04-20 17:33:16 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-04-20 14:59:57 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-04-20 18:10:04 
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@  2008-04-20 19:42:26 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-04-21 03:24:37 
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rickman <gnuarm@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 06:16:01 
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Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SP  2008-04-21 11:09:57 
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rickman <gnuarm@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 07:12:10 
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"Michael A. Terrell&  2008-04-21 12:56:30 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-04-25 16:33:39 
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