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Re: Flash retention in uC at higher temps, experience?

by Joerg <notthisjoergsch@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 14, 2008 at 09:11 AM

Jim Granville wrote:
> Joerg wrote:
> 
> <snip>
>>
>> I wish the MSP430 was available in automotive but it ain't. At least 
>> not according to the TI rep.
> 
> For more critical uses, Infineon seem to have well-spec'd uC -
> their new ones all have Error Correcting Flash, and 125'C models.
> 
> http://www.infineon.com/XC800
> 
> Also recently added are a series of Transmitter ICs for Wireless 
> Control, that have Sub 1GHz Transmitters, and Low power Flash C51's
> - one targets Tire Pressure, at Automotive temp range.
> http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/promopages/pma5110/index.html
> 

Aha! Thanks. Seems there is some hope. Although I am not much of an 
Infineon fan. The reaction time of their CA office can be, well, just 
like the name suggests, infinity.

> 
> Flash retention is one of those 'fingers crossed' specs from most
> suppliers. They cannot TEST years of use, so they do a little 
> extrapolation, and we all know, extrapolation is dangerous :)
> 

Yes, like global warming :-)

Hold the tomatoes ...

> 
>> One could add some code so it re-flashes itself once in a while, 
>> that's another option here. 
> 
>  From What ?
> 

Copy sectors 1-10 consecutively into RAM, write them to sectors 11-20, 
assert start location 11, disassert start location 1. A month later the 
other way around. And so on. Just like rotating a wood pile so it dries 
evenly.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

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Flash retention in uC at higher temps, experience?
Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-13 15:42:27 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-13 23:07:42 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-13 16:23:42 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-14 03:19:13 
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Frank Buss <fb@[EMAIL   2008-06-14 09:40:25 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 08:43:12 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-15 02:56:10 
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mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-14 19:48:34 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-15 06:20:01 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-15 09:43:04 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-15 18:11:05 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 08:36:57 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-15 02:11:10 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-15 09:09:13 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-15 18:26:27 
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Didi <dp@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-15 03:02:51 
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Jonathan Kirwan <jkirw  2008-06-15 18:05:56 
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John Tserkezis <jt@[EM  2008-06-14 09:14:03 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-13 16:26:55 
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John Tserkezis <jt@[EM  2008-06-14 19:46:48 
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ThanderMaX <aniruddha.  2008-06-14 11:11:23 
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Tim Wescott <tim@[EMAI  2008-06-13 16:15:12 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-13 16:31:00 
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Tim Wescott <tim@[EMAI  2008-06-13 16:47:27 
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Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_no  2008-06-13 20:01:40 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-13 16:59:40 
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Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_no  2008-06-13 20:25:43 
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"TheM" <Dont  2008-06-14 12:51:25 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 09:06:34 
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"TheM" <Dont  2008-06-14 21:49:49 
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Jim Granville <no.spam  2008-06-15 15:31:08 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hans-Bernh  2008-06-15 12:38:56 
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"TheM" <Dont  2008-06-15 13:03:08 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-13 16:58:25 
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Jim Granville <no.spam  2008-06-14 13:10:15 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 09:11:06 
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Jim Granville <no.spam  2008-06-15 14:55:41 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-15 09:19:36 
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Jim Granville <no.spam  2008-06-16 10:54:20 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-15 16:12:39 
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James Arthur <bogusabd  2008-06-14 02:29:06 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 09:13:28 
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Paul Keinanen <keinane  2008-06-14 10:35:12 
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Frank Buss <fb@[EMAIL   2008-06-14 10:20:52 
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Paul Keinanen <keinane  2008-06-14 20:09:32 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 11:14:21 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 09:14:57 
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Paul Keinanen <keinane  2008-06-14 20:09:20 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 11:12:07 
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Frank Buss <fb@[EMAIL   2008-06-14 10:06:48 
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"TheM" <Dont  2008-06-14 12:48:00 
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Frank Buss <fb@[EMAIL   2008-06-14 13:27:06 
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"TheM" <Dont  2008-06-14 22:11:27 
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Robert Adsett <sub2@[E  2008-06-14 17:35:38 
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Jim Granville <no.spam  2008-06-15 15:42:25 
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Robert Adsett <sub2@[E  2008-06-14 23:55:59 
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"TheM" <Dont  2008-06-15 13:27:04 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 09:03:11 
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"Gordon S. Hlavenka&  2008-06-14 22:48:02 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-15 09:30:17 
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"Gordon S. Hlavenka&  2008-06-15 23:17:29 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-16 07:23:26 
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legg <legg@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-14 16:49:56 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-14 15:04:59 
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legg <legg@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-15 01:16:50 
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"Ian Stirling"   2008-06-15 11:32:44 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-15 13:41:18 
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root@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-06-15 18:13:03 
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch  2008-06-15 16:19:16 

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