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Audio circuit to drive solenoid

by "Doug B." <c.difficile@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 5, 2008 at 06:20 PM

Hello all,

I am looking for some design help on a circuit to control a rotary
solenoid using an audio signal. First, some context:

This is for a musician/artist friend who is building a prototype of a
new musical instrument. The instrument consists of a series of nitinol
(MuscleWire) strings that are plucked by a wooden stick attached to a
rotary solenoid. He currently has eight strings+solenoid combinations
going. When it's played, the instrument sounds like a chorus of
detuned cats...

To drive a solenoid under his current setup, my friend simply connects
it across the positive and negative terminals of one channel of a car
stereo amp. He uses either an analog synthesizer or a digital music
application on his computer to generate pulse trains of low-frequency
signals. I guess you could call it a primitive form of PWM. He
manually tweaks the signal shape, period and volume until he gets the
solenoids to activate and pluck the strings at the rates he wants.

All this works (remarkably) well except for two problems: 1) The
solenoids get really hot after a short time. No wonder, as they spend
a good part of the time uselessly activated. I haven't actually hooked
up a scope, but I suspect that only the first 10-20 milliseconds of
the audio pulses are going to actually activate the solenoid; the rest
of the energy is going to heat his apartment. 2) Each solenoid takes
up a precious channel of an amp that is rated to 50 watts while actual
power needs are probably only a watt or two.

So what I'd like to do is design a circuit that would take the line-
level audio output from his synth or soundcard (1 V rms on the Macbook
he uses) and use it to trigger a pulse that is just long enough to
drive the solenoid. I don't have the specs on the solenoid, but I
believe it needs about 10 milliseconds for activation, then another 60
- 100 ms to run its course to 45 degrees. The solenoid is rated at 12
volts, but I'm not sure whether that is the 100% duty cycle rating or
something less. In any case, my friend uses 13.8 V regulated power
supplies for his setups, so I'd like to use that to power the circuit.

My first idea for this was to half-wave rectify the audio signal and
use it to drive a power transistor, but I don't see how to limit the
resulting pulse length, then shut off, regardless of how long the
audio note plays. RC circuit maybe?

I welcome all ideas, great and small. Thanks!

doug beeson
montreal,canada
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
Audio circuit to drive solenoid
"Doug B." <c  2008-07-05 18:20:55 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
"Tim Williams"   2008-07-05 21:35:01 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
"J.A. Legris" &  2008-07-05 20:19:00 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
"Doug B." <c  2008-07-05 23:24:23 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-07-09 20:12:14 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
"J.A. Legris" &  2008-07-06 04:08:20 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyolite@  2008-07-06 12:35:41 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
"Doug B." <c  2008-07-07 08:39:58 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
zekfrivo@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-07-07 16:49:49 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
RFI-EMI-GUY <Rhyolite@  2008-07-10 11:07:26 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-07-09 20:01:58 
Re: Audio circuit to drive solenoid
RobPileckis@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-12 21:14:12 

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