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Re: Trusted Platform Module / Trusted Computing Platform Alliance (TPM/TCPA) -Guy Macon

by Ari <DROPTheJooseIsLoose@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 19, 2008 at 02:20 AM

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:30:00 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

> The talk of "owner****p" is confusing the issue.  There is no such
> concept in TPM.  If TPM is turned on and you load Windows, then
> Windows "owns" all the hardware including the TPM chip, and of 
> course Microsoft owns Windows.  If TPM is turned on and you load 
> Linux, then Linux "owns" all the hardware including the TPM chip,
> and you own your copy of Linux.  
> 
> Note the "if TPM is turned on" qualifier. The BIOS is responsible 
> for turning on the TPM chip.  At power-on, the BIOS either activates 
> the TPM chip (and then does various other things) or deactivates the 
> TPM chip, in which case it remains deactivated until the next power 
> cycle. No operating system or application can reactivate it without 
> cycling the power.
> 
> Can TPM "hide data from the owner against his interests in favor 
> of the interests of a copyright holder?"  If the owner tells the 
> BIOS to turn on TPM and then loads an OS that does the above
> (I am looking at you, Vista) yes. If the owner disables TPM in
> the Bios or loads an OS that doesn't do the above, then no.  
> 
> What the TPM chip is really good at is storing certain data
> (keys) and not letting it out unless it gets matching hashes 
> that tell it that the same BIOS, extension BIOSes, MBR, GRUB 
> bootstrap stages / Windows bootloader and other designated 
> files such as the Linux or Windows kernel are the same as
> what stored the data.  This stops you from booting to a 
> Knoppix CD and extracting the keys from Windows.  This 
> also stops you from removing a Linux hard drive, mounting 
> it as a secondary drive on a Windows box and extracting 
> the keys. It also stops you from changing the OS without 
> powering down and extracting the keys from RAM.
> 
> Can the TPM chip be used for Evil?  Yes, but only if you

What a load of Bull****.
-- 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVydzNJrno
 




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Guy Macon <http://www.  2008-11-18 14:30:00 
Re: Trusted Platform Module / Trusted Computing Platform Allianc
Jens Stueckelberger <J  2008-11-18 15:27:58 
Re: Trusted Platform Module / Trusted Computing Platform Allianc
Guy Macon <http://www.  2008-11-18 19:42:10 
Re: Trusted Platform Module / Trusted Computing Platform Allianc
"Joseph Ashwood"  2008-11-18 20:56:59 
Re: Trusted Platform Module / Trusted Computing Platform Allianc
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-11-22 20:08:33 
Re: Trusted Platform Module / Trusted Computing Platform Allianc
Ari <DROPTheJooseIsLoo  2008-11-19 02:20:04 
Re: Trusted Platform Module / Trusted Computing Platform Allianc
JosephKK <quiettechblu  2008-11-22 19:58:27 

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