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Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...

by "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 4, 2008 at 01:23 AM

For twenty odd years, I have had the same Terry's Anglepoise bench lamp in 
service. I have always used perfectly normal 60 watt incandescent lamps in

it, without any problem at all. Although the metal shade used to get quite

warm, it was never enough to actually burn you when your forehead 
accidentally connected with it.

Recently, the light bulbs I've been seeing and buying, seem to have
reduced 
in size from the old 'tennis ball' size, to something closer to a snooker
or 
pool ball (but not as small as the established 'golf ball' types often
used 
in multibranch ceiling lights and light / fan fittings.)

I have noticed that these new smaller bulbs run a whole quantum leap
hotter 
than the older larger size, and they hot up the shade on the bench light 
until it is unbearably hot to touch. Today, I left the workshop for a
while, 
and when I came back, the air was full of that 'fishy' sort of smell you
get 
when something like a wall socket or the plug that's in it, is burning. A 
hunt around for the source, brought me to the bench lamp, which was still 
alight. When I moved it, it went off. When it had cooled down a bit, I
took 
the bulb out (a UK bi-pad bayonet cap rather than a U.S. edison screw
type) 
and I was horrified to see that one of the solder pads had just about
burnt 
away completely, and the black insulation material in the base had started

to burn as well. Fortunately, the brass lampholder was undamaged.

So, has anyone else noticed how hot these smaller bulbs run ? Are we
talking 
dangerous here if they are used in any fitting where they hang downwards ?

Any suggestions as to why there is such a large increase in temperature ? 
Yes, I can see that the glass envelope is closer to the filament, and that

it has somewhat less surface area to radiate the heat away from, but I'm
not 
sure that either of those are enough to account for just how much hotter 
they seem to run. And why had one pad burnt away?Anything to do with the 
solder being lead-free and less malleable than before, reducing the spring

loaded contact area maybe ?

A bit worrying as I'm sure that there will be many situations where a 
fitting that has previously been quite happy with a 60 watt bulb in it,
will 
now overheat, with possibly catastrophic consequences ...

Arfa
 




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Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-04 01:23:49 
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"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-04 08:12:42 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-04 09:08:56 
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"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-04 14:52:07 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-04 16:27:39 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-05 00:46:25 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-05 23:11:28 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 01:54:25 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 12:06:34 
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"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-06 13:48:33 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-06 14:13:04 
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"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-06 14:36:26 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 15:05:52 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 15:11:55 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 15:02:48 
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"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-04 23:51:55 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-04 18:41:00 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 02:08:27 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-05 20:57:51 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 12:15:05 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 15:18:28 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-06 10:05:06 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-07-06 15:45:39 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 01:30:30 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jim Adney <jadney@[EMA  2008-07-06 17:38:00 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 01:28:51 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jim Adney <jadney@[EMA  2008-07-06 20:32:27 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:26:47 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"DaveM" <mas  2008-07-06 21:40:42 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:41:35 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-06 18:56:42 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:53:39 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-07 10:31:08 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 01:46:27 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Peter Dettmann <peter@  2008-07-08 12:03:13 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Andrew Erickson <gmavt  2008-07-07 23:45:50 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 09:21:03 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 18:25:12 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-07 07:38:29 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:55:14 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Mr. Land" <  2008-07-07 10:10:54 

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