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Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...

by "N_Cook" <diverse@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 4, 2008 at 08:12 AM

Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:y4ebk.387$jB5.114@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For twenty odd years, I have had the same Terry's Anglepoise bench lamp
in
> service. I have always used perfectly normal 60 watt incandescent lamps
in
> it, without any problem at all. Although the metal shade used to get
quite
> warm, it was never enough to actually burn you when your forehead
> accidentally connected with it.
>
> Recently, the light bulbs I've been seeing and buying, seem to have
reduced
> in size from the old 'tennis ball' size, to something closer to a
snooker
or
> pool ball (but not as small as the established 'golf ball' types often
used
> in multibranch ceiling lights and light / fan fittings.)
>
> I have noticed that these new smaller bulbs run a whole quantum leap
hotter
> than the older larger size, and they hot up the shade on the bench light
> until it is unbearably hot to touch. Today, I left the workshop for a
while,
> and when I came back, the air was full of that 'fishy' sort of smell you
get
> when something like a wall socket or the plug that's in it, is burning.
A
> hunt around for the source, brought me to the bench lamp, which was
still
> alight. When I moved it, it went off. When it had cooled down a bit, I
took
> the bulb out (a UK bi-pad bayonet cap rather than a U.S. edison screw
type)
> and I was horrified to see that one of the solder pads had just about
burnt
> away completely, and the black insulation material in the base had
started
> to burn as well. Fortunately, the brass lampholder was undamaged.
>
> So, has anyone else noticed how hot these smaller bulbs run ? Are we
talking
> dangerous here if they are used in any fitting where they hang downwards
?
> Any suggestions as to why there is such a large increase in temperature
?
> Yes, I can see that the glass envelope is closer to the filament, and
that
> it has somewhat less surface area to radiate the heat away from, but I'm
not
> sure that either of those are enough to account for just how much hotter
> they seem to run. And why had one pad burnt away?Anything to do with the
> solder being lead-free and less malleable than before, reducing the
spring
> loaded contact area maybe ?
>
> A bit worrying as I'm sure that there will be many situations where a
> fitting that has previously been quite happy with a 60 watt bulb in it,
will
> now overheat, with possibly catastrophic consequences ...
>
> Arfa
>
>

I usually use circular fluourescent lamp of an anglepoise inspection lamp
for bench illumination but sometimes use a traditional one (Luxo for those
over there). In that I have a 60Watt one that is conical in shape, like
Apollo earth lander capsule, that has silvering on the cone so directs
both
heat and light forwards unlice dichroic which is designed to pass heat
through to the rear and light forward. The cover gets about as hot as
something less than a 40W standard bulb. They may be used for shop display
purposes these silvered bulbs. As most of the rearwar light is directed
forwards more efficiently than a cluttered white cover then perhaps
equivalent to standard 150W illumination in the direction where you want
it

The ones I have are coloured but I scrape the varnish off the front, Endon
Accessories  Reflector R080 type

--
Diverse Devices, Southampton, England
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/
 




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Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-04 01:23:49 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-04 08:12:42 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-04 09:08:56 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-04 14:52:07 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-04 16:27:39 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-05 00:46:25 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-05 23:11:28 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 01:54:25 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 12:06:34 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-06 13:48:33 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-06 14:13:04 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-06 14:36:26 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 15:05:52 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 15:11:55 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 15:02:48 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-04 23:51:55 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-04 18:41:00 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 02:08:27 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-05 20:57:51 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 12:15:05 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 15:18:28 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-06 10:05:06 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-07-06 15:45:39 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 01:30:30 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jim Adney <jadney@[EMA  2008-07-06 17:38:00 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 01:28:51 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jim Adney <jadney@[EMA  2008-07-06 20:32:27 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:26:47 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"DaveM" <mas  2008-07-06 21:40:42 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:41:35 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-06 18:56:42 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:53:39 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-07 10:31:08 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 01:46:27 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Peter Dettmann <peter@  2008-07-08 12:03:13 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Andrew Erickson <gmavt  2008-07-07 23:45:50 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 09:21:03 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 18:25:12 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-07 07:38:29 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:55:14 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Mr. Land" <  2008-07-07 10:10:54 

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