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Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...

by Baron <baron.nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 4, 2008 at 04:27 PM

Arfa Daily Inscribed thus:

> For twenty odd years, I have had the same Terry's Anglepoise bench
> lamp in service. I have always used perfectly normal 60 watt
> incandescent lamps in it, without any problem at all. Although the
> metal shade used to get quite warm, it was never enough to actually
> burn you when your forehead accidentally connected with it.
> 
> Recently, the light bulbs I've been seeing and buying, seem to have
> reduced in size from the old 'tennis ball' size, to something closer
> to a snooker or pool ball (but not as small as the established 'golf
> ball' types often used in multibranch ceiling lights and light / fan
> fittings.)
> 
> I have noticed that these new smaller bulbs run a whole quantum leap
> hotter than the older larger size, and they hot up the shade on the
> bench light until it is unbearably hot to touch. Today, I left the
> workshop for a while, and when I came back, the air was full of that
> 'fishy' sort of smell you get when something like a wall socket or the
> plug that's in it, is burning. A hunt around for the source, brought
> me to the bench lamp, which was still alight. When I moved it, it went
> off. When it had cooled down a bit, I took the bulb out (a UK bi-pad
> bayonet cap rather than a U.S. edison screw type) and I was horrified
> to see that one of the solder pads had just about burnt away
> completely, and the black insulation material in the base had started
> to burn as well. Fortunately, the brass lampholder was undamaged.

Don't count on the lampholder being undamaged !  The springs in the
holder that apply pressure to the contact pads on the bulb, weaken with
both age and heat.  It would be wise to replace the lamp holder.

> So, has anyone else noticed how hot these smaller bulbs run ? Are we
> talking dangerous here if they are used in any fitting where they hang
> downwards ? Any suggestions as to why there is such a large increase
> in temperature ? Yes, I can see that the glass envelope is closer to
> the filament, and that it has somewhat less surface area to radiate
> the heat away from, but I'm not sure that either of those are enough
> to account for just how much hotter they seem to run. And why had one
> pad burnt away?Anything to do with the solder being lead-free and less
> malleable than before, reducing the spring loaded contact area maybe ?

Yes the smaller glass envelope does increase the heat considerably ! 
The bulb produces a little more light as well.  I don't know that being
lead free makes a lot of difference, the heat sure does though ! 

> A bit worrying as I'm sure that there will be many situations where a
> fitting that has previously been quite happy with a 60 watt bulb in
> it, will now overheat, with possibly catastrophic consequences ...
> 
> Arfa

Yes I agree, overheating is a problem.  I enlarged the vent holes on my
desk lamp for that reason.  I used a nibbling tool that I bought at
Radio Shack when I was in the USA a few years ago.

-- 
Best Reagrds:
                        Baron.
 




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Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-04 01:23:49 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-04 08:12:42 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-04 09:08:56 
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"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-04 14:52:07 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-04 16:27:39 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-05 00:46:25 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-05 23:11:28 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 01:54:25 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 12:06:34 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-06 13:48:33 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-06 14:13:04 
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"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-06 14:36:26 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 15:05:52 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 15:11:55 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 15:02:48 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Dave Plowman (News)  2008-07-04 23:51:55 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-04 18:41:00 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 02:08:27 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-05 20:57:51 
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Baron <baron.nospam@[E  2008-07-06 12:15:05 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-06 15:18:28 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-06 10:05:06 
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVE  2008-07-06 15:45:39 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 01:30:30 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jim Adney <jadney@[EMA  2008-07-06 17:38:00 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 01:28:51 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jim Adney <jadney@[EMA  2008-07-06 20:32:27 
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"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:26:47 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"DaveM" <mas  2008-07-06 21:40:42 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:41:35 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-06 18:56:42 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:53:39 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl  2008-07-07 10:31:08 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 01:46:27 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Peter Dettmann <peter@  2008-07-08 12:03:13 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
Andrew Erickson <gmavt  2008-07-07 23:45:50 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 09:21:03 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-08 18:25:12 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"N_Cook" <di  2008-07-07 07:38:29 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Arfa Daily" &l  2008-07-07 09:55:14 
Re: Slightly OT. Heat and a Bench Light ...
"Mr. Land" <  2008-07-07 10:10:54 

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