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Re: reducing Conducted Emission from Power Fan in high frequency band

by "hrhofmann@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <hrhofmann@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 19, 2008 at 01:31 PM

On Apr 19, 11:07=A0am, default <edmoneyfromlanailstu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 19 Apr., 04:32, "hrhofm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 18, 3:09=A0am, default <edmoneyfromlanailstu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > I am writting at my diploma thesis with an EMC theme.
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> > > If got a power fan (13V / 6A) witch produces conducted emissions, so
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> > > have to reduce them to achieve CISPR25.
> > > Up to 40MHz I found an easy solving with LC lowpass filter, but over
> > > 50MHz I am out of the CISPR25 limit.
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> > > Does anybody have experiences in EMC design in high frequency bands,
> > > doesn't have?
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> > > I think about solving it like the motherboard producers do, they
> > > design there signals like little inductors and so one.
> > > But I didn't find any guidlines to do this like them.
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> > Are you saying that the lowpass filter is not blocking the high-
> > frequency noise components above 45 MHz, but is blocking the mid-range
> > frequency components below 45 MHz, and so you need a more effective
> > filter against the really high-frequency noise from 45 MHz and
> > higher? =A0
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> yes that's my problem, downsides 45MHz it's okay
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> Some ferrite beads on the power leads along with shunt
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> > capacitance between the leads and between each lead on a good solid
> > ground should form an effective high-frequency filter. =A0But lead
> > lengths are critical at these frequencies, beware of any leads longer
> > than 1 inch, these look as much like inductors as real inductors.
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> i tried two X-C's form plus load to case of the fan and one from gnd
> to case, it works fine but the ****blem is that i can't do it.
> according to the opnion of my boss, because maybe there are new fans
> designed in future that doesn't have a metallic case.
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> > How many dB are you over the limits, 10, 100???
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> the worst case level is about 65MHz with 56dB=B5V and the spec is about
> 30dB=B5V, i am circa 26dB=B5V above the debit level- Hide quoted text -
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If the new fans of the future have plastic cases, they will have to do
a better job inside the case of stopping the noise..  Have you tried
any ferrite beads on the conductors on the fan side of the capacitors
to act as high impedances to the higher frequency noises?
 




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default <edmoneyfromla  2008-04-18 01:09:32 
Re: reducing Conducted Emission from Power Fan in high frequency
"hrhofmann@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-18 19:32:59 
Re: reducing Conducted Emission from Power Fan in high frequency
default <edmoneyfromla  2008-04-19 09:07:47 
Re: reducing Conducted Emission from Power Fan in high frequency
"hrhofmann@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-19 13:31:28 
Re: reducing Conducted Emission from Power Fan in high frequency
default <edmoneyfromla  2008-04-20 05:39:55 
Re: reducing Conducted Emission from Power Fan in high frequency
"hrhofmann@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-20 08:28:01 

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